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Recollections
Stockbridge
On the Water of Leith
At the northern edge of Edinburgh New Town
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Yvonne Cain
(nee
Dorr)
New South Wales,
Australia
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- Pawn Shop |
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Peter Gilchrist
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- Leslie Place
- Shops |
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3. |
Eddie Duffy
Fox Covert, Edinburgh
with comment from
Bob Henderson
Burdiehouse, Edinburgh
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- Home
- Horses and Carts
- Other Businesses
- Sunday Walks
- Return to
Stockbridge
- The Old Homes |
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4. |
Dorothy Land
(nee
Jeremy)
Suffolk, England |
The 1930s
- The Depression
- Stale Bread and
Bruised Fruit
- Broken Biscuits
- Shivery Bite
- Apples
- Clothes |
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5. |
Jim Patience
Alberta, Canada
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- Madame Doubtfire
- Jamaica Street |
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6. |
Shirley
Thomson
(nee Canale)
Yorkshire, England
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Bedford Street
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Raeburn Place
- Around Stockbridge |
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7. |
Allan Dodds
Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England |
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The Steamie and Washing
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The Steamie
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Recollections
1.
Yvonne Cain (nee Dorr)
New South Wales,
Australia
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Yvonne wrote: |
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Pawn Shop
"My dad's friend had the pawn shop at
Stockbridge. His dad had it first. It was called Duncan.
I don't know if it is
still there."
Yvonne Cain (nee Dorr),
now living in Sydney, New South Wales, Australia: October 6, 2006
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Jim Patience replied: |
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Pawn Shop
"The pawn shop was Wm. Duncanson's. It
was turned into a two bedroom flat in 1998 . The three brass balls were
still on the wall outside at that time"
Jim Patience, Alberta,
USA: April 25, 2008
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Recollections
2.
Peter Gilchrist
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Peter wrote:
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Leslie Place
"I stayed at Leslie Place from birth 1944 to
marriage 1966 and remember the milk
cart well as I helped the milkman whose name was Jimmy to deliver the
milk to our street and St,. Bernard's Crescent."
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Shops
"Threshers was originally one of Rankins'
shops, the other being on the other corner
opposite the Fishmonger.
Mrs Bird and her two sons stayed at number 2
Leslie Place. Their shop was formerly a
'Cigar and Tobacco'
shop run by a little lady called Isa.
I stayed at number 6a."
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Peter Gilchrist, January 25, 2007 |
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Recollections
3.
Eddie Duffy
Fox Covert, Edinburgh
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Eddie wrote:
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Home
"I grew up in a
tenement at 38 Bedford Street in the 1950s and early 1960s. We
were just up from the bottom of Dean Park Street
There is a street there now called
Bedford Street, but this was built after the original tenements were
pulled down in the late 60's.
We lived on the first floor, my
Aunt lived in the basement. My grandmother lived at No: 32, her sister
at 24, a 2nd cousin at 26 and my Grandfather eventually moved from over
the Water of Leith at Saunders Street to Bedford Crescent, so we were
all within 50 yards of each other.
We
moved away from there in 1967."
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Horses and Carts
"There were plenty of characters
in Stockbridge in the at that time:
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Jimmy "the milkman" delivering for
St. Cuthbert's (with his horse Falcon) as shown in your Leslie
Place picture, having his lunch and a wee nip at 38 Bedford Street on
Saturdays. I was sometimes allowed to help Jimmy on a Saturday and the
seat on the Cart seemed very high up to a 10 year old."
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- Jimmy Simpson, the Rag 'n' Bone
man, who seemed to live around the bottom of Dean Street on the
left hand side past Di Angelo's Ice Cream Shop. The houses there were
mostly derelict at the time, with boarded-up windows and open doorways
and I am pretty sure he kept his horse in one of them?"
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Other Businesses
"I
remember:
- Dora Noyce at 17 Danube Street,
who ran a very well-known house of "ill repute". I delivered milk here
until the early 70's when I worked for Forrest's Dairy in Deanhaugh
Street.
- Madame Doubtfire's on the corner
of N.W. Circus Place and Howe Street. I often wondered if the
film, Mrs Doubtfire, was named after her.
(It
was: see 5 below.)
- The Home Bakery and Preacher's
in Raeburn Place, where everything was freshly made and the hot rolls
were great.
- Johnny's Fish Van, which came
to Saunders Street every Saturday morning. I had to travel there
from West Granton Crescent each and every week as my mother said that
his was the best - fresh!
- Nan's wee shop, down a basement
in Dean Street (just up past the Dean Bar), where you could buy a
"fourpit" of tatties, but only if you brought your own bag for them."
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Fourpit
"Eddie mentions a fourpit of
tatties. I thought an explanation of this measure might be of interest
to our younger readers.
A fourpit = 3 1/2
lbs = 1 fourth part =1/4 of a stone.
1 stone = 14 lbs.
1 kilo = approx 2.2 lbs
(lbs = pounds)
Bob Henderson, Burdiehouse, Edinburgh:
April 22, 2008 |
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Sunday Walks
"I remember my Grandfather taking
my sister and me walking along the Water of Leith on a Sunday morning,
ending up at the sweet shop in Huntly Street for a "wee bottle of juice"
which had to be finished on the premises.
Then the long walk home again, as
my grandad never got the bus anywhere!!
Those were the days."
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Return to Stockbridge
"I am in Stockbridge quite a lot
still, going to Bert's Bar for the Scotland Football Games, especially.
I keep trying to move back there, but it's now so expensive.
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The Old Homes
When I lived there, you could not
give property away. No-one wanted to live where we lived. Only
one flat out of three on each floor had inside toilets. The other two
had to share one on the landing.
There was no central heating or
bathrooms. These flats were known as "room 'n' kitchens".
Literally a kitchen with a bedroom recess off, divided by a curtain.
I was totally unaware how
underprivileged we were.."
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Eddie Duffy, Fox Covert, Edinburgh: February 20
+ 24, 2007 |
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Recollections
4.
Dorothy Land (nee Jeremy)
Suffolk, England |
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Stockbridge in the 1930s
Thank you to Dorothy Jeremy, now Dorothy Land, who wrote about
Edinburgh in the depression of the 1930s
Dorothy wrote: |
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The Depression
"My Grandfather had a light
engineering works ASPEY & SONS, in Leith, which did badly during the
Depression in the 1930's.
I imagine the Depression was felt
by most people throughout Britain from all walks of life.
My grandparents lived in Leslie
Place, Stockbridge, and had expectations of a good standard of living." |
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Stale Bread and
Bruised Fruit
"During the Depression my
grandmother fed her four sons and daughter with great ingenuity.
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She would send out a son in the early
hours with a pillowcase to call at the baker for stale bread. She would
cut off the dry crusts, sprinkle the loaf with water, wrap it in a tea
towel and then heat it through in the oven to soften it.
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Another son would be sent to the
fruiters (greengrocer) to collect "bruised" fruit. She would then slice
off the bruises, peel away any mould and make a fruit salad." |
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Broken Biscuits
"My mother's task was to collect
a paper bag full of 'broken biscuits'. These were the damaged ones
left at the bottom of the manufacturer's tin.
Biscuits were not sold in packets
in the 30's but
scooped out with an aluminum scoop from a large square tin behind the
counter.
The kindly shop keeper would
sometimes give my mother a couple of whole biscuits as a treat. All
the children felt humiliated by having to do the rounds of the shops - but
at least they ate well." |
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Shivery Bite
"The children had no sweets so,
as a treat, my mother would save the bullet-hard peas she found at the
bottom of her mother's pea and ham soup, twist them in a bit of paper and
save them to suck on later.
If you took these to the swimming
baths and ate them afterwards, as you were getting dressed, this was
called your "shivery bite", she told me.
The local fleapit cinema would
let children in for the price of a handful of empty jam jars.
Inconceivable!" |
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Apples
"Despite the hardship my mother
was acutely aware there were some even worse off than her own family. Her
most poignant memory of
Edinburgh poverty was always having a handful of children hanging
around her on the school playground while she ate an apple, all begging
her to "gie us yer stump hen" (give me your core).
She would leave a few bites on
the apple, and reluctantly hand it over. |
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Clothes
"As for clothes, (apart from
hand-me-downs), the women would laboriously unpick woolen knitted garments
and re-knit them.
My grandmother cleaned for a few
well-to-do ladies and they gave her their old coats. She would then cut
them down to make coats and jackets for her children and the neighbours'
children.
Everyone helped everyone else
out. They were all in the same boat." |
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Dorothy Land, (nee Jeremy), Suffolk, England:
June 3, 2007 |
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Recollections
5.
Jim Patience
Alberta, Canada
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Jim wrote:
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Madame Doubtfire
"Re Eddie Duffy Recollection of
Madame Doubtfire. The movie was based on her. There was an article
in 'The International Express' a couple of years ago about her."
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Jamaica Street
"I stayed in Jamaica Street,
a stone's throw from her shop and I still have two cigarette cases I
bought in 1950 or 1951 when I was 13."
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Jim Patience, Alberta, Canada:
April 22, 2008 |
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Recollections
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Shirley Thomson (nee
Canale)
Yorkshire, England |
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Shirley wrote:
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Bedford Street
"I was born at home at 26
Bedford Street and lived there until 1951. My Granny and Grandad lived
in the street as well.
My house is long pulled down now
but reading other peoples recollections brought it all back:
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Neighbours who were always there to lend a hand
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No
secrets due to the fact we all lived on top of each other.
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Mothers who sat out on their
stools and gossiped in the street (on fine days)
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The
street cleaner who turned on the water so we could splash about."
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Raeburn Place
"I remember
Raeburn Place with all it’s shops:
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Remos, where we got our rations of
sweets and cigarettes, during and after the
war.
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A shop where we got our accumulators which ran the 'wireless'.
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Trams up to Princess street,
but having to walk back because Mum would only give us fares one way."
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Around Stockbridge
"I remember:
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Glenogle Baths
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Inverleith Park
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Bonfire Nights
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'Guising'.
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Trams up to Princess street,
but having to walk back because Mum would only give us fares one way.
Happy days indeed."
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Shirley Thomson, Yorkshire, England:
July 7, 2008 |
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Recollections
7.
Allan Dodds
Nottingham, Nottinghamshire,
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Allan wrote:
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The Steamie and Washing
"In Henderson Row, just before the
Edinburgh Academy, there was a place my Mother used to call "The
Steamie". Women in headscarves and a 'fag' (cigarette) hanging from the
lower lip, wheeling pram (perambulator) frames containing tin tubs full
of dirty laundry, used to frequent it.
My Mother used to refer to them as
the 'hoi polloi', ie the low life who lacked any form of practical skill
whatsoever, as she herself used to take pride in doing her own washing
at home - a scrubbing board followed by
squeezing out on the Acme Wringer - the
vanguard in technology!
I was allowed to operate such
equipment at the tender age of five. We were obviously 'posh' and 'with
it' as is the revamped 'steamie'."
Allan Dodds, Nottingham,
Nottinghamshire, England: October 21, 2008 |
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Allan added
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The Steamie
"The
'steamie' was the municipal wash-house where scores of Canonmills women
took their dirty laundry.
The building has been revamped by
the addition of ornamental railings
and it now
looks quite attractive."
Allan Dodds, Nottingham,
Nottinghamshire, England: October 21, 2008 |
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