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Recollections - Edinburgh Old Town
Dumbiedykes
People and Play
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1a.
from
George C R
Stevenson
Livingston, West Lothian
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'The Scotchie'
The Queen's Park
Clothes
Neighbours
Bonfires
Street Gangs
Church Cubs
Cinemas
One Man Band
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1b.
from
George C R
Stevenson
Livingston, West Lothian
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Pleasance
Holyrood Square
Friendship |
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2.
from
Robert B
McNeill
The Inch, Edinburgh
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Dumbiedykes Road
Arthur's Seat |
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3.
from
George
Smith
known to many as
Eric
McKenzie
British Colombia, Canada
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Arthur Street |
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4.
from
Isa
Paulin
Cheshire, England
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Children from Holyrood Square
Infirmary Street Baths
Simon's Bakery |
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5.
from
Jeanette
Boon
Welland, Ontario, Canada
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Dumbiedykes Road
- St Margaret's Church
- Dumbiedykes Reunion |
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6.
from
Kathleen
Honan
Slateford, Edinburgh
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Homes
Friends |
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7a.
from
Eric
Gold
known to many as
Eric McKenzie
East End, London
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'The Scotchie'
The Rat Man
Doctor Goldberg
Saturday Nights
Nae Kick the Can
Peevery Beds
Halloween
The Bogeyman
St Margaret's Loch
Toodles, the Cat |
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7b.
from
Eric
Gold
known to many as
Eric McKenzie
East End, London
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Coronation Street Party |
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8.
from
James
Reid
Entre Naranios, Orhuela, Spain
and reply from
George Smith
British Colombia, Canada
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Beaumont Place
Mushy Peas in Vinegar |
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9.
Bryan
Gourlay
Biggar, Lanarkshire, Scotland
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Schools
Football
School Dentist
Qualifying Dance |
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10.
from
George
Smith
British Colombia, Canada
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Preston Street School |
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11a.
from
Jean Rae
nee
Aithie
Southside, Edinburgh |
Old Photos
Schools
Bookie |
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11b.
from
Jean Rae
nee
Aithie
Southside, Edinburgh |
Out of School |
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12.
from
Sharon
Fuller
Chatham. Kent |
Searching for People - Charles
Plank |
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13.
from
Jane
Jones nee
Richardson
Cambridgeshire, England |
Dr Gordon |
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14.
from
Rab
Waugh
Queensland, Australia
with reply from
Rab
Blackwood |
Schools
Emigration to Australia
Photos |
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15.
from
Aileen (Alison) McIntosh
nee DUFF
Roseburn, Edinburgh |
Moray House Theatre
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16a.
from
Peter
Bottomley
North Gyle, Edinburgh
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'The Embers'
'The Scotchie' |
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16b.
Reply from
Eric Gold
East End, London |
'The Scotchie' |
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16c.
Reply from
John Alexander
Sydney, NSW, Australia |
'The Embers'
'The Plastic Meringue' |
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17a.
from
Ken
Matthews
Glenrothes, Fife, Scotland |
'Johnny and the Falcons' |
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17b.
from
Frankie Connor |
'Johnny and the Falcons' |
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18a.
from
Harry Marshall
('Peets')
Tranent, East Lothian |
Arthur Street
Memories
Streets and the 'Scotchie'
Young Brothers' Bakery
My Old Mates |
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18b.
from
Harry Marshall
('Peets')
Tranent, East Lothian |
Arthur Street
Memories
Streets and the 'Scotchie'
Young Brothers' Bakery
My Old Mates |
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18c.
from
Daniel Duff |
Teeny! Where are you?
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19.
from
Carol
Symonds (nee Tierney)
Wales |
Dumbiedykes
Dumbiedykes Road
People Remembered
Schools |
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20.
from
Helene Waugh
Canongate, Edinburgh |
Dumbiedykes
Dumbiedykes Road
People Remembered
Schools |
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21a.
from
Grace Owen |
Arthur street
Middle Arthur Place
Doctors, Bonfires and Shops
Do your remember the Owens? |
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21b.
Grace Owen
and replies from
Tom
Harrison
Buckstone, Edinburgh
Mamie Scott
(nee Carr)
and
James A
Rafferty
Falkirk, Stirlingshire, Scotland
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Arthur street
Middle Arthur Place
Doctors, Bonfires and Shops
Do your remember the Owens? |
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22.
from
Jim Robertson |
Friends
Shops
Contact
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23.
from
Liz Sproat
(nee Elizabeth Bell)
Duddingston / Portobello,
Edinburgh |
Dumbiedykes Road
Family
The Balconies
Christmas Presents
The Store
'The Toffs'
Shops
Move from Dumbiedykes |
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24.
from
Tony
Henderson
Canada |
'The Scotchie' |
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25.
from
Catherine
McKinsley
(nee
Calvey)
Peterborough, Cambridgeshire, England
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The Calvey Family
Move to The Dummy
Friends
Shops
At Play
Willy Allen's Hall
Winter
Little Theatre Club
Move from The Dummy
Questions |
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26.
from
Bob Henderson
Burdiehouse, Edinburgh
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Chippie
Arthur Street
Coal Deliveries
Bookies
Rag Sorters
New Houses |
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27.
from
Eric Gold
known to many as
Eric McKenzie
East End, London
and reply from
Tony Ivanov
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St Ann's School
Chippie and Rag Store
Collecting Rags |
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28.
from
Eric Gold
known to many as
Eric McKenzie
East End, London
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Box Player
Trades Fortnight
Johnny McKenzie |
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29.
from
Bob Henderson
Burdiehouse, Edinburgh
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Arthur Street - Houses
Arthur Street - Children |
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30.
from
Jim Robertson
Berlin, Germany
and replies from
Bob
Henderson
Burdiehouse, Edinburgh, and
Eric Gold
East End, London |
St Patrick's School
St Patrick's School Class
St Patrick's School Teachers |
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31.
from
Jackie
Hamilton
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Arthur Street
Arthur Seat
Museum and
Play Park
Hunter Family3 |
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32.
from
Bob Henderson
Burdiehouse, Edinburgh
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Arthur Street
Play Park
Museum |
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Please click here for recollections
33 onwards |
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1a.
Recollections
by
George C R Stevenson
Livingston, Scotland |
Thank you to George C R H Stevenson, for sending some memories of life
in the Dumbiedykes district of Edinburgh from 1953 to 1962. |
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'The Scotchie'
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"The hill in the photo was called 'The
Scotchie', where we played 'Cowboys and Indians' and 'British and
Germans'."
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The Queen's Park
The Queen's Park was a tremendous back garden
to have. Beside the Nursery, there was a wall
we called the Planny, which you climbed to get down into the park,
and came out next to the gas works.
I think there were more Cowboys and
Indians playing in the Queen's Park than there ever were in the USA.
When one of yous was tied up front, to
be a horse, they sometimes started getting a bit angry 'cause they
didn't want to be a horse any more.
I remember four of us climbing to the
Cat's Neck on Salisbury Crags, one wearing an Ark Royal Sailor's hat
and one called Ronnie with a 2nd World War Infantry Helmet. We
had a photo of the attire which I might find one day.
When I sometimes take my dog for a walk
round the Radical Road, Salisbury Crags, it makes me think how
fearless we must have been then, 'cause there's no way you would get
me up there now." |
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Clothes
"My brother and I must
have looked a picture back then as we both had to wear German
lederhosen, our Mum being German. Our Granny and Grandad
brought them over from Germany.
We were taunted for a while - then it
stopped as everybody saw they were good for sliding down the
Scotchie and down from the Radical Road Crags to the bottom in
Queen's Park.
My uncle John, I think it was, gave me
and my brother an old leopard skin. I jumped out a few times
with it tied on to me, to give people a fright in the stair.
That was soon stopped. Our leopard skin died a sudden death.
Our cat, Smokey, peed on it, and it was put in the bin.
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Neighbours
"There were a lot of
foreign people living in our area at that time. I remember
there were quite a few Ukrainian families - Mycko, Kurluch,
..."
I was pleased to receive an e-mail in June 2005
from Ian Mycko, Gilmerton, Edinburgh, formerly of Dumbiedykes,
asking for help in contacting George Stevenson who wrote the
recollections above. I hope that contact has now been
established.
Over the past couple of years, I have received
several e-mails from around the world with fond memories of
Dumbiedykes in the mid-1900s.
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Bonfires
"Bonfire time was quite a
caper, collecting, and borrowing from other street gangs, what would
now be classed as vintage furniture, worth a fortune"
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Street Gangs
"The street gangs were not
gangs that beat up little old ladies or did any harm. There
were
- The 'Squaries' from Holyrood
Square.
- The 'Drummond Street Gang'.
- The 'Easties' and 'Westies' from
Arthur Street.
I think we were called the 'Middlies'.
We made tomahawks out of roof slates and a piece of stick." |
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Church Cubs
"My brother and I joined
the 40th St Margaret's Church Cubs. The Church was next to
Salteri's dairy. The Minister was Revd. Duncan Shaw, who
became the Moderator of the Church of Scotland.
The man who ran the Cubs was Mr Bird.
We enjoyed going to the Cubs. There was always plenty to do.
My brother and I were kindly doing 'bob
a job' for the cubs charity. We went into the undertakers at
the bottom of St Mary's Street and asked for a 'bob a job'.
The undertaker replied: "Aye you can go down the stairs
and polish the coffins." We broke Roger Bannister's Mile Record
running back down to Lower Viewcraig Row.
It all came to an end when we got
shifted into a palace - a house with a bath, three rooms and a
garden in the Inch.
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Cinemas
"Does anyone remember the
fleahoose - the New Palace cinema? A fishwife used to
sell mussels and pokes of buckies at the corner of St Mary's
Street.
We all used to buy them. After you
ate them with a pin to get them out, they were good 'amo' for
throwing at each other in the cinema, which became a market and
McGoo's Night Club.
The cleaners must have had an awful job
sweeping them up. Sorry, I'm one of the guilty ones.
Also, there was a scabbylala
La Scala, where a toothless ice cream lady often cried
out: "If you don't shut up, you will get a skelping."
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One Man Band
"Does anyone remember the busker 'one
man band'? He used to have a clown's face painted on, and on
the back of his jacket was just a square."
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George C R H Stevenson
Livingston, West Lothian, Scotland, May 2005 |
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1b.
More Recollections
by
George C R Stevenson
Livingston, Scotland |
Six months after sending the above recollections, George Stevenson
wrote again with more memories of Dumbiedykes. His message was sent
on 29 November 2005, his birthday and the day before he returned to sea
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Pleasance
©
"My brother thinks that my sister and I
might be in the Pleasance waste ground photo, which was at the back
end of Scotchie Hill.
Maybe, maybe not." |
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Holyrood Square
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I remember when they were digging the
foundations for the new skyscrapers that they built in Holyrood
Square, we played at "Germans and British, Japs and Americans".
There was a boy called Ronnie who stayed
down from Yardley's. He always wanted to be the big chief.
Maybe he became a brigadier in the Army.
I'm sure somebody told me in later years
that Holyrood Square was a barracks - horses and all
- in Victorian days. Interesting. I don't know if
it's fact. |
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Friendship
"There was something about everyone who
lived in the Dumbiedykes area.
We were neighbours of the Queen and
family - Holyrood Palace !!!
We might not have been well off, but we
didn't have to go and borrow some sugar from her." |
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George C R H Stevenson
Livingston, West Lothian, Scotland, 29 November
2005 |
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2.
Recollections
by Robert B
McNeill
The Inch, Edinburgh |
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Thank you to Robert B McNeill, Edinburgh, for the following details.
Robert writes:
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Dumbiedykes Road
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"One of the local 'worthies' former
residents might remember was a lady called Jenny Ellison (or
Allison, I'm not sure how her surname was spelt).
Jenny had a son called Dod (who I think
worked in the Cleansing Dept) and both stayed at the ground floor
flat at 144 Dumbiedykes Road.
Jenny spoke with a bit of a lisp and
could always be seen at her window having wee blether. Kids would
occasionally try to 'knock a rise' out of Jenny by mimicking the way
she spoke (only to be sent on their way with an an 'earful').
Like most Dumbiedykes residents, Jenny
and Dod were genuinely nice folk (and also incredibly tolerant!).
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Arthur's Seat
"I was interested to read a former
Southsider's comments re 'The Scotchie'. I know the part of Arthur's
Seat referred to. I think the crevice in the rock above was called
either 'The Chimney' or 'The Cat's Nick'. Many's the time my pals
and I risked life and limb climbing from the path (the Radical Road)
to the top end at Hunter's Bog.
Despite the overcrowding, there was a
great community spirit in the Southside. I very much appreciate the
site and the photographs
If anyone who stayed in the area has old
pictures, I do hope they'll consider submitting them.
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Robert B McNeill. The Inch, Edinburgh, 31
August 2005 |
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3.
Recollections
by
George Smith
British Colombia, Canada |
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Thank you to George Smith of British Columbia, Canada, formerly
Edinburgh, who wrote: |
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Arthur Street
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"Recent material about Dumbiedykes
brought back some family memories.
My cousin who lived in Arthur Street
also managed to let go the hand brake of his father's (Co-Op/Store)
lorry but managed to avert catastrophe at the last minute by
applying his juvenile feet to the footbrake and come to a stop
before hitting the fence at the bottom".
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George
Smith, Nanaimo, Vancouver Island, British Colombia, Canada.
4 September 2005. |
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4.
Recollections
by Isa Paulin
Cheshire, England |
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Thank you to Isa Paulin for sending me the photograph of some of the
children from Holyrood Square. Isa wrote:
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Children from Holyrood Square
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"Here is a photo of some
kids from Holyrood Square who may just recognise themselves. I
reckon this was taken round about 1940 and was in Holyrood Park."
Please click on the picture above to enlarge it
and to read some of the names provided by Isa. |
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Infirmary Street Baths
and
Simon's Bakery
I wonder if anyone
remembers Simon's Bakery in St. Mary Street.
At Milton House Primary School
our class went every week to Infirmary Street Baths for our swimming
lesson and on the way back to school the highlight of the day was to
pop into Simon's for our 'shivery bite' which was a mince pie topped
with baked beans.
I can still taste it now, the
gravy running down our chins - just heaven, especially on a cold
winter's day!! |
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Isa
Paulin, Cheshire, England: 20 November 2005 |
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5.
Recollections
by Jeanette
Boon
Canada |
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Thank you to Jeanette Boon, now living in Canada for sending me the
following comments on this photograph.
Jeanette wrote: |
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St Margaret's Church
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This photograph is of
Prospect Street and St. Margaret's Church.
I used to attend this church.
I'm sure a lot of people will remember
Miss Riley, the Sunday school teacher. She always wore a grey
skirt and jacket. I used to think she was a nun.
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This photograph is of
Prospect Terrace. This was right next to Lower Viewcraig Row.
You can see the church on the left side of this photo.
This was the spot where the bride and
groom came out of the church to a waiting car. We were always
there for the "poor-oot"
The groom would throw money out of the car as
it took off. What a scramble to get some. |
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It was good to receive an e-mail and the photograph below from Jeanette
Boon (formerly Jeanette Keighren) who used to live at Dumbiedykes).
Jeanette left Edinburgh in 1957 and now lives in Welland, Ontario,
Canada, about twenty minutes from Niagara Falls.
Jeanette wrote:
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Reunion in Canada
"I lived at 65
Lower Viewcraig Row with my parents, three sisters and a brother.
My name then was Jeanette Keighren."
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"My husband and I are now retired
teachers. We have three children (teachers) and six grand
children."
Dumbiedykes Reunion
in Canada
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"We
had a reunion at my house in Canada, of five
ladies from Dumbiedykes.
They were:
- the Campbell ladies
from Prospect Place
both now living in Canada
- the Paulin' ladies
from Holyrood Square
one now living in England,
the other still in Edinburgh.
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Jeanette Boon (myself)
formerly Jeanette Keighren
from Lower Viewcraig Row."
"We got in touch with each other through
'Friends Reunited'.
We all went to Milton House School and
then James Clarks. Our ages now range from 60 to 70.
Reading some of the comments from George
Stevenson, especially about the Scotchie and Yardley's shop took me
back in time.
I would like to know what number he
lived at and when."
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Jeanette:
George lived in Dumbiedykes from 1953 to 1962. His address was
65 Lower Viewcraig Row ,the same address as yours, but beginning
about two years after you left!
Peter Stubbs
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6.
Message
from Kathleen
Honan
Slateford, Edinburgh |
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Looking for people who grew up in
Dumbiedykes
Kathleen Honan hopes to make contact again with some of the people she
knew when she grew up in the Dumbiedykes area of Edinburgh.
If you would like to respond to the message below, please
e-mail me and I will forward your message to Kathleen.
Kathleen wrote: |
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Homes
I lived with
my granny in Lower Viewcraig Row, Dumbiedykes, in a top flat, No. 52.
My granny's name was Farrell.
My
mother and father lived in Adam Street. We had the ladies
hairdressers, just off Adam Street, next to the nursery, but i spent
all of my time at Lower View.
Dumbiedykes
was a place never to be forgotten. |
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Friends
I've been
trying for ages to make contact with someone from Dumbiedykes.
I am
already in contact with Helen Whitehead who lived in Prospect
Terrace or Place. We have been pals since we were
twelve.
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only people I can think of are Rab Sneddon, Jimmy Logan, Billy
Cockburn, Gordon May and Johnny Christie. |
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Kathleen Honan: 30 August 2005
Slateford, Edinburgh (for the past 35 years) |
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Response 1
Thank you to Margaret Stevens, formerly Margaret Rutherford of Arthur
Street for responding to the request above. Margaret still lives in
Edinburgh and will be aged 60 in 2006.
Margaret: I've forwarded your message to Kathleen
- Peter Stubbs: February 18, 2006. |
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Response 2
Thank you to Bill Cockburn for sending me a message for Kathleen Honan.
Bill, who, now lives in Comely Bank, Edinburgh, tells me that it is
nearly 40 years since he was last in touch with Kathleen.
Bill: I've forwarded your message to Kathleen.
- Peter Stubbs: April 14, 2007. |
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Response
3
Thank you to Danny Duff for letting me know where
Rab Sneddon works now.
Danny:
I've forwarded your message to Kathleen.
- Peter Stubbs:
February 3 2008 |
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Update - May 2007
I'm pleased to have now received another message from Bill Cockburn.
Bill wrote: |
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Meeting
"I've been busy blethering with Kathleen
Honan, and we are arranging a meet up with Jimmy Logan and Helen
Whitehead, after about 47 years.
All this is thanks to your website, for which
I will be for ever grateful."
- Bill Cockburn, Comely Bank, Edinburgh May
9, 2007. |
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7.
Recollections
by Eric Gold
East End, London |
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Thank you to Eric Gold who lived at East Arthur Place from 1948 until
1961 for the following. Eric wrote:
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