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Dumbiedykes Photographs East Arthur Place Demolition 1961 |
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Two Children + Two Workers
© Allan Dodds, Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England
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Two Children (again)
© Allan Dodds, Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England
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One Child and Demolition Workers
© Photograph reproduced with acknowledgement to Allan Dodds, Nottingham, England
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East Arthur Place Demolition |
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Photos 1 and 2 Two Young Children Thank you to Allan Dodds for allowing me to reproduce these two photos that he took of East Arthur Place being demolished in 1961. I think these photos are great, and really capture the period when children were allowed to roam the streets with fewer 'health and safety' rules to restrict them. Acknowledgement: Allan Dodds, Nottingham, Nottinghamshire: November 21, 2011 |
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Recollections Many people have sent their recollections of Dumbiedykes to the EdinPhoto web site. See: - Dumbiedykes - after demolition - Dumbiedykes - Arthur Street coal lorry - Dumbiedykes - Arthur Street Aitchison, Greengrocer - Dumbiedykes - Arthur Street Thomas Cullen's shop - Dumbiedykes - Houses and Streets - Dumbiedykes - Factories and Shops 1950s - Dumbiedykes - Penny Tenement 1950s - Dumbiedykes - People and Play 1940s-1960s - Dumbiedykes - People and Play 1940s-1960s: page 2 - Dumbiedykes - St Leonard's 1950s - Dumbiedykes - Searching for People - Dumbiedykes - Tusi's ice cream shop Perhaps somebody will recognise these two children in the photos above, and will email me to tell me their names! Peter Stubbs: December 6, 2011 |
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Arthur Street Demolition |
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Photo 3 One Child and Demolition Workers Thank you to Allan Dodds for writing again to let me know that Photo 3 which I had previously included in 'The Pleasance' section of the EdinPhoto web site was also taken in Arthur Street, on the same occasion as Photos 1 and 2 above. This photo shows: - the steep slope of Arthur Street in the foreground (bottom left corner) and - Salisbury Crags in Holyrood Park in the the background (top of picture). When Allan first sent Photo 3 to me me, he mentioned that these tenements were being demolished in the early-1960s and that the remaining tenements were demolished about ten years later. He added: |
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Bulldozers "My Edinburgh University Psychology Lecture Rooms moved weekly, from door to door, to keep ahead of the bulldozers!" Allan Dodds, Nottingham, Nottinghamshire: October 26, 2008 |
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Recently, when Allan sent photos 1 and 2 above to me, he wrote: |
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Three Photos "These three photos above belong together. For pictorial reasons, I retouched out the street name on Photo 3, but it reads 'Arthur Street' ** on a straight print. ** But see Reply 6 below. Photo 3 is from the portfolio that won me the President's Trophy in the Edinburgh Photographic Society Members' Exhibition in 1961. I did not submit Photos 1 and 2 to the Exhibition." Acknowledgement: Allan Dodds, Nottingham, Nottinghamshire: December, 6, 2011 |
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Please click on the thumbnail image below to enlarge Photo 3. |
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Reply 1. Eric Gold East London |
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Thank you to Eric Gold who wrote: |
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Arthur Street Demolition "I've looked at the Arthur Street photos again and again and with a few calculations on the steepness of the brae and the old maps that I have, I believe that the two wee boys in photo 3 are standing at the end of East Arthur Place. A dead giveaway was old Mr Rattery’s shop, as it was painted a creamy colour. I saw my hoose windows as well. They looked into Arthur Street itself. In the foreground, you can see Salisbury Street which was dead opposite Arthur Street. My big brother Tam lived there." Eric Gold, East London: December 10, 2011 |
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Reply 2. Allan Dodds Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England |
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Thank you to Allan Dodds for replying to Eric Gold's comments above. Allan wrote: |
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Arthur Street Demolition "The photos above were all taken at Arthur Street : ** ** But see 'Reply 6' below Allan Dodds, Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England: December 25, 2011 |
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Streets 1. I don't think there is any doubt that the steep street with the houses being demolished is Arthur Street. 2. Eric Gold suggested that the two boys in this photo might be standing at the end of East Arthur Place: East Arthur Place is one of three streets that leads to the south from Arthur Street, as can be seen from the map below: The photo may well be of that junction in Arthur Street. 3. Eric added: "In the foreground, you can see Salisbury Street." However, I think there must be some confusion*** here. The map above shows that Salisbury Street ran parallel with Arthur Street, to the south of Arthur Street, so I don't think the street in the foreground could have been Salisbury Street. *** Confusion resolved. See reply 3 below Peter Stubbs, Edinburgh: December 26, 2011 |
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Reply 3. Bob Henderson Burdiehouse, Edinburgh |
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Thank you to Bob Henderson for explaining and agreeing with Eric Gold's reference to Salisbury Street. Bob points out that Eric is referring to the background of Photo 1 above, not the foreground of photo 3 above. It all makes sense now, including Eric Gold's further comments below. Bob wrote: |
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Salisbury Street "You can indeed see the Salisbury Street houses in the background of Photo 1 which looks along East Arthur Place." Bob Henderson, Burdiehouse, Edinburgh: December 27, 2011 |
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Reply 4. Eric Gold East London |
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Eric Gold wrote: |
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Salisbury Street "When I was wee, one could see Salisbury Street from East Arthur Place as the street had a small wall at the end as did Middle Arthur Place. This which took you into the back green which was shared between Salisbury Street and Arthur Street. I used to climb this wall and go across the back green and into the stair that my big brother Tam lived. Eric Gold, East London: December 26 2011 |
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Reply 5. Eric Gold East London |
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Eric Gold added: |
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Salisbury Street "I phoned my big sister last night about Salisbury Street, and she agreed with me that one can see Salisbury Street from East, Middle and West Arthur Place. She also remembered, as a wee lassie, the close going from Cowan’s Paper factory in Arthur Street to Salisbury Street, but my mum did not like her playing there and said the bogyman had a wee room and kitchen there, so my sister and her pals never went there again." Eric Gold, East London: December 27, 2011 |
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Reply 6. Allan Dodds Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England |
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Thank you to Allan Dodds for updating the message that he gave in 'Reply 2 above. Allan wrote: |
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East Arthur Place Demolition "Sorry for the confusion. Eric Gold was correct as identifying the location in these photos as East Arthur Place. I have now retrieved the original negative for the first of these photos and, through a magnifier, I can clearly see the street name, East Arthur Place, on it, which I retouched out in the print for exhibition purposes. Sorry for any confusion." Allan Dodds, Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England: February 2, 2012 |
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