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Thomas Harigad Douglas

and

William Douglas

 

Thomas Harigad Douglas

Professional Photographer

Here is a carte de visite portrait of the Edinburgh professional photographer, Sotires Georgiades, photographed by Thomas Harigad Douglas.

 Carte de Visite

of Sotires Georgiades

Photographer:  Thomas Harigad Douglas

Carte de Visite  -  Sotires Georgiades  -  Photographer TH Douglas

©  This photograph is included with  
National Galleries of Scotland permission.
See Copyright Conditions

Thomas Harigad Douglas' first appearance as a professional photographer in the trade directories in 1868.   He continued to be listed in the trade directories for the next three years.

Thomas H Douglas

_ Chamberlain Road

1868-69

Thomas H Douglas

13 Chamberlain Road

1870-71

Thomas H Douglas

1 Hanover Street

1870-71

He advertised:

“Carte de visite, cabinet, full plate 

and equestrian portraits”.  

His name appears on the back of cartes de visite from Brown's New Photographic Rooms which opened at Tollcross in 1875.

However, on many of these cartes the name has been scored out in pencil and no other name added in its place.

 

Thomas Harigad Douglas

Exhibitions

3rd PSS Exhibition, Dec 1858

Thomas H Douglas exhibited two collodion albumen landscapes in the 3rd PSS Exhibition in 1858.

He exhibited  12 cartes de visite in the 9th PSS Exhibition in 1864.

 

Thomas or William Douglas

Photographs in Collections

I have seen cartes de visite showing scenes of Edinburgh by Douglas, Edinburgh:

"High School, Edinburgh"

"Heriot's Hospital, Edinburgh".

Which Douglas was it who took these photographs?

 

William Douglas

William Douglas was based  at Douglas's Photographic Studio, Edinburgh.
I have not yet discovered if and how he was related to Thomas H Douglas.  

This is one of many questions I have concerning the Douglas photographers in Edinburgh.

Thank you to Sally Douglas for giving me the following addresses of William Douglas, Edinburgh engraver.  Was he related to William Doulglas photographer, above?

Addresses

1837-39

5 College Street

1840

50 South College Street

1841-43

5 Roxburghe Place

1844-45

10 Buccleuch Place

1846

22 Society

1847-49

5 South College Street

1850

2 Greyfriars' Place

1851-52

2 Greyfriars' Place   'Engraver and House Agent'

 

 

Reply

1.

Sally Douglas

Melbourne, Victoria, Australia

William Douglas

Thank you to Sally Douglas for giving me the following addresses of William Douglas, Edinburgh engraver.  Was he related to William Douglas photographer, above?

Addresses

1837-39

5 College Street

1840

50 South College Street

1841-43

5 Roxburghe Place

1844-45

10 Buccleuch Place

1846

22 Society

1847-49

5 South College Street

1850

2 Greyfriars' Place

1851-52

2 Greyfriars' Place   'Engraver and House Agent'

 

 

Reply

2.

Sally Douglas

Melbourne, Victoria, Australia

Thank you to Sally Douglas for sending me many emails about Thomas H Douglas and family to me.

Sally told me:

Exhibition Prints

" Thomas H Douglas submitted prints to the 1864  Photographic Society of Scotland Exhibitions in Edinburgh:

-   Catalogue No. 646:   7 collodion views and portraits.

 Catalogue No. 669:  12 collodion cartes de visite.

V & A Collection

"There is a theatrical carte de visite by Thomas H Douglas of Harry Payne performing in 'The Grand Duchess' at Covent Garden Theatre in the Victoria & Albert Museum collection of photos."

Update

Thank you to Sally Douglas for now telling me about this page on the Victoria & Albert Museum web site.

It has 4 theatrical carte de visite by Thomas H Douglas, all now held in the V & A collection.

Peter Stubbs:  December 22, 2012

 

1881 Census

"Thomas Harigad Douglas appears in the 1881 Census:

-  Address: 

-  Born:  Edinburgh

-  Age:  45

-  Wife:  Jane, age 38, born Edinburgh

-  Children (all born Edinburgh except William, Leith)

-  James, 16:  Ship Broker's Apprentice

-  Alexander, 15:  Clerk

-  Annie, 10

-  Robert, 9

-  Schotta, 5

-  Jane, 2

-  William, 10 months

This Thomas Harigad Douglas was the son of James Torry Douglas, Searcher of Records.  He (Thomas Harigad Douglas) subsequently Searcher of Records, himself."

Family Search Web Site

"A family tree on the Family Search web site gives the following details for the Edinburgh photographer, Thomas Harigad Douglas

-  Name:  Thomas Harigad Douglas

-  Father:  James Torry Douglas

-  Mother:  Helen Bryden Brown

-  Date of Birth:  April 23, 1832

-  Year of Death:  1896

-  Occupation:  He succeeded his father as Searcher of Public Records at Register House, Edinburgh

-  Wife (1):  Catherine Rachael

-  Children

-  James Torry, b.1864

-  Alexander Simpson, b.1865, d.1901

-  Anne Greig, b.1867

-  Helen Bryden, b.1870, d.1871

-  Robert Hinde, b.1871, d.1941

-  Gavin, b. and d.1873

-  Sholto Thomas, b.1875, d.1901

-  Jane Catherine, b.1878

-  William Dodds Simpson, b. 1880

  John Archibald b.1881

-  Wife (2):  Elizabeth Strangeway

-  No children

Family History

"It appears likely that Thomas Harigad Douglas was:

-  Artist

-  Writer

-  Photographer

-  Artist

-  Writer

in that order, as he went through life.

It also appears likely that this same Thomas H Douglas was a photographer in both Edinburgh and Glasgow at about the same time.

Thomas Harigad Douglas was descended from Sir William Douglas, the 1st Earl of Douglas, through the Douglas line (as opposed to Angus).

It seems that he was not closely related to John Douglas, born 1813 at Dollar, Clackmannan - Snuff Box and Portrait Painter, Photographer including carte-de-visite, but he was of the same broad family."

London Gazette Announcements

"In 1884, Thomas Harigad Douglas was a photographer of 84 Constitution Street, Leith.              Source:  London Gazette, Feb 29, 1884

Leith Studio

Thanks for finding that Sally.  I found no record of his Thomas H Douglas' 1884 Leith studio in the Edinburgh & Leith Post Office Directory, probably because he did not stay there long enough to be listed in the Directory.  This studio was the address of several photographers over a short period in the 1880s.

-  1882:  William Barry

-  1883:  Simpson & Co

-  1884:  Thomas H Douglas

-  1885:  James Lamb

Peter Stubbs:  December 20, 2012

Update

Thomas H Douglas' photography business in Leith soon came to an end.  Thank you to Sally Douglas for sending me an extract from the London Gazette, February 29, 1884 which lists a number 'Scotch Sequestrations' under The Bankruptcy Act 1883.

This list includes 'Thomas H Douglas, Leith Photographers, on March 7, 1884'.

Peter Stubbs:  December 21, 2012

Thomas Harigad Douglas had also appeared in earlier editions of the London Gazette.

-   In 1879, the London Gazette announced an Examination of a Bankrupt, THOMAS HARIGAD DOUGLAS, Searcher of Public Records, 74,George Street, would take place on March 7, 2012, and would be followed by a Meeting of the Creditors on March 20, 2012.              London Gazette, Feb 28, 1879

-  In 1883, the London Gazette announced a 'General Meeting of the Creditors on the Sequestrated Estate of THOMAS HARIGAD DOUGLAS, Searcher of Public Records to be held on June 6, 1883.'                          London Gazette, May 15, 1883

I think we now have 'proof' that he was a Writer, Artist, Searcher of Records and then Photographer, and that he was Thomas H Douglas of Leith and Edinburgh and most likely of Glasgow."

Sally E Douglas, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia:  December 18+19+20+21+22, 2012 (28 emails!)

Sally added:  "Thomas Harigad Douglas 1836 is a Douglas of Morton, whereas my line is Douglas of Bonjedward and Timpendean."

 

Reply

3.

Sally Douglas

Melbourne, Victoria, Australia

Thank you to Sally Douglas for writing again with lots more information about Thomas H Douglas.  Here are extracts from emails that Sally sent to me yesterday.

Rifle Volunteer Corps

"Thomas Harigad Douglas was appointed:

'Ensign, City of Edinburgh Volunteer Rifle Corps'."

The London Gazette:  9 December 1859

Marriage

"The marriage was announced at 6 Sylvan Place, Edinburgh, on 28 July 1863, between

-  Thomas Harigad Douglas, St Brides, Boroughmuirhead AND

-  Jane Catherine Rachel, daughter of late Alexander Simpson.

Jane  Simpson was Thomas H Douglas' second wife."

The Caledonian Mercury, Edinburgh: July 31, 2012

Gravestone

Thank you to Sally Douglas for also sending me this link to a page on the GravestonePhotos web site that has a photograph of the gravestone of Thomas' second wife, Jane, at Dean Cemetery, Edinburgh, and details of all the legible inscriptions on it.

In fact, one of the names on this gravestone may not have been very legible.  Sally points out that the web site lists Douglas as Thomas M Douglas, but it should be Thomas H Douglas.

Sally E Douglas, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia:  December 21+22+23, 2012 (25 emails!)

 

Reply

4.

Peter Stubbs

Edinburgh:

Douglas Family  -  No More Updates?

July 2009

Thank you to Sally E Douglas, Australia, for continuing to send me Douglas family details.

I wish all the best to Sally and others who are researching the Douglas family, but unfortunately I don't have the resources to do any more updating to the Douglas family pages on the EdinPhoto web site.

-  Peter Stubbs:  July 13, 2009

 

Reply

5.

Peter Stubbs

Edinburgh:

Douglas Family  -  No More Updates?

December 2012

After not hearing from Sally for some time, I have now received 52 emails from her recently over the past four days. - almost all giving more background info about Thomas H Douglas.

I have found this background info to be interesting and have now added most of the details  to the Reply 2 and Reply 3 paragraphs above, but I may not be able to find the time to add much more info about him to the web site in the foreseeable future.

-  Peter Stubbs:  December 21, 2012

 

Reply

6.

Sally Douglas

Melbourne, Victoria, Australia

Thomas H Douglas

emails received from Sally Douglas

Thanks Sally for all the emails about Thomas Douglas and family that you have sent to me recently.  I've read them all, but there have been far too many for me to consider adding to the EdinPhoto web site.

However, I feel that Thomas H Douglas and his family are already fairly well represented on the EdinPhoto web site, so I'm not planning to add any more info about him to the site.  I hope you can appreciate my reasons for taking that line.  Instead, I'll concentrate on:

a)  catching up on my backlog of outstanding replies that I have to send to the many other contributors to the EdinPhoto web site.

b)  preparing for a couple of Presentation on Photography that I'm due to give in Jan + Feb 2013.  (I plan to also add these presentations to the EdinPhoto web site when they are ready.)

c)  taking more of my own photos, and adding them to the EdinPhoto web site.

Thomas H Douglas

British Journal of Photography

Amongst the 103 emails about Thomas H Douglas and family that Sally Douglas has sent to me over the past ten days (18-27 Dec) there are several that include extracts  from the British Journal of Photography, most from 1867.

It is interesting to know that Thomas H Douglas features in these accounts, but so also do many other early Edinburgh photographers, both amateur and professional.

I don't plan to introduce duplication by quoting extensively from the BJP on the EdinPhoto web site.  Fortunately, early editions of the BJP are available from some of the major reference libraries, and the BJP had a good annual index, so it can be fairly easy to find articles about individual photographers  in the journal.

Other Photographers

British Journal of Photography

I've spent a lot of time, over the years, browsing with interest through early editions of the BJP, tracing the development of photography in Britain and of British photographic societies.  The BJP has provided me with a wealth of material.

If anyone wished to investigate the work of some of the early photographers, the BJP might be a good place to start.

e.g.  it might be interesting to research some of the pioneering work of some of the Edinburgh photographers, such as James James Good Tunny.  He carried out his own experiments and taught photography to others in Edinburgh in the 1850s.  Some of the claims he made for his own achievements were disputed at the time by others in the BJP.

Peter Stubbs, Edinburgh:  December 27, 2012

 

Update

Before anybody takes up my suggestion above that some research might be done into the work done by pioneering photographers such as James Good Tunny in Edinburgh, I should point out that Julian Bukits, Southside, Edinbrugh has already been researching the history of South Clerk Street, Edinbrugh, and in particular the life and work of James Good Tunny.

Julian has written extensive notes on Tunny, and has now added some of these notes to his James Good Tunny web site.

Peter Stubbs, Edinburgh:  December 29, 2012

 

 

Please keep scrolling down to find

links to more 'Douglas' pages

 

Thomas Harigad Douglas

J & R Douglas Cartes de Visite + Thomas H Douglas

Thomas Harigad Douglas and William Douglas

Thomas Harigad Douglas   -  Stereo Views

Thomas HarigadDouglas  -  Advertisement

Thomas Harigad Douglas  Cartes-de-visite

 

Douglas Family

Douglas  Artists  -  Family Tree

Douglas Photographers  -  Glasgow

Douglas Photographers  Census 1861, 1871

Douglas Photographers + Artists  + questions

Stereo Views  -  Edinburgh Castle  -  enlargements

Stereo Views  -  Edinburgh Castle  -  pairs of photographs

Stereo Views  -  Donaldson's Hospital and Calton Jail  -  enlargements

Stereo Views  -  Donaldson's Hospital and Calton Hill  -  pairs of photographs

 

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A selection of my photographs, many from Edinburgh throughout the year.   Also photos from Scotland, London, Iceland, Italy, Hong Kong and elsewhere    Many old maps of Edinburgh (Old Town, New Town, while City), Leith and Newhaven.  Includes several old transport maps and a comparison of old maps with recent aerial photos.   Old engravings, mailly of Edinburgh scenes.  Some from the 1820s, some from the 1890s,  some others - includes many hand-coloured examples from the 1820s.   News from Edinburgh today  -  Events, Collections, Buildings and Gardens, Transport   This site includes     1. Post card portraits taken in studios in Edinburgh:    2. Post card views either takeen/published by Ediburgh photographers or views of Edinburgh, or both.y Edinburgh    Views of Edinburgh, grouped into three sections:     1. Street views:    2. Buildings:    3. Around Edinburgh   Views of transport around Edinburgh  -  Horse drawn trams and buses, cable cars, electric trams, buses and a few railway photos.  Also several maps of Edinburgh's bus and tram routes.   Links to pages with Photos of Groups   Frequently Asked Questions

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