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Cartes de visite

Brown Barnes & Bell

Use of Addresses on Cabinet Prints and Cartes de Visite
to determine when a photograph was taken

Only one studio in London is listed on the carte de visite below.  (The first two London studios opened in 1880 and 1881.)  So approx date is:

1880

Card A:  carte de visite

The back of a carte de visite by Brown Barnes & Bell  -  approx 1880

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Two London studios are listed on the carte de visite below. (second opened 1881).  So is Bootle (closed 1882) .  So approx date  is:

1881-82

Card B:  carte de visit

The back of a carte de visite by Brown Barnes & Bell  -  approx 1881-82

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Details are similar to Card B, but with some differences in addresses However the two London addresses (second studio opened 1881) and Bootle address (closed 1882) give an approx date of:

1881-82

Card C:  cabinet print

The back of a carte de visite by Brown Barnes & Bell  -  approx 1881-82

  Copyright: For permission to reproduce, please contact peter.stubbs@edinphoto.org.uk

 

Bootle (closed 1882) is no longer listed.  Bradford (closed1883) is listed.  So, approx date is:

1883

Card D:  carte de visite

The back of a carte de visite by Brown Barnes & Bell  -  approx 1883

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The Manchester studio has a new address, but otherwise the card is similar to D.  In particular, Bootle (closed1882) is no longer listed, but Bradford (closed1883) still listed. So this gave me an  approx date of 1884.

However, I've now revised this date after receiving an email from David Jenkin.

See below  ***

1878 or 1879

Card E:  carte de visite

The back of a carte de visite by Brown Barnes & Bell  -  approx 1883

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***  Thank you to David Jenkin for telling me he believes that the date I estimated for this photo (1884) is too late.  David has a carte de visite of his grandfather, which has an identical back.  He believes that the photo would have been taken in 1878 or 1879.  David also points out that this card is out of sequence, because it does not have the Royal Coat of Arms.

Acknowledgement:  David Jenkin, April 28, 2012

A London studios is listed at 12 Baker Street (opened 1886).  Edinburgh (closed 1886) is still listed.  So approx. date is:

1886

Card F:  cabinet print

The back of a cabinet print by Brown Barnes & Bell  -  approx 1886

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Here is an interesting back, with labels showing some connection with a cruise.  Did Brown, Barnes & Bell have any special arrangement for photography on board cruises from Liverpool?

Only the Liverpool and Manchester studios are listed here.  Does that imply that the photo dates from 1877-78, before studios in other towns and cities were open, or was it decided to omit any reference to these on the card?

Brown Barnes & Bell opened 3 studios in Liverpool in 1877 but there is only mention of one of them on the card.  Can anything be learnt about the date of this photo from the Royal Coat of Arms and the wording around it?  Please click here to enlarge the top of this card.

Date not known

but see 'Update' below

Card G:  cabinet print

The back of a cabinet print by Brown Barnes & Bell  -  approx 1886

  Reproduced with acknowledgement to Ann Passeri, Chesterfield, Derbyshire, England

Update

Card G:  cabinet print

Thank you to Marjorie Hayes for sending me this message about cabinet print G, above.

Marjorie wrote:

"I noticed that a Cabinet print G, above, was listed 'date unknown'.

I have a photograph of my grandparents taken at 31 Bold Street which matches Card G.

My grandmother is wearing a wedding ring. They were married on 8th June 1892."

Marjorie Hayes:  January 23, 2009

 

 

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A selection of my photographs, many from Edinburgh throughout the year.   Also photos from Scotland, London, Iceland, Italy, Hong Kong and elsewhere    Many old maps of Edinburgh (Old Town, New Town, while City), Leith and Newhaven.  Includes several old transport maps and a comparison of old maps with recent aerial photos.   Old engravings, mailly of Edinburgh scenes.  Some from the 1820s, some from the 1890s,  some others - includes many hand-coloured examples from the 1820s.   News from Edinburgh today  -  Events, Collections, Buildings and Gardens, Transport   This site includes     1. Post card portraits taken in studios in Edinburgh:    2. Post card views either takeen/published by Ediburgh photographers or views of Edinburgh, or both.y Edinburgh    Views of Edinburgh, grouped into three sections:     1. Street views:    2. Buildings:    3. Around Edinburgh   Views of transport around Edinburgh  -  Horse drawn trams and buses, cable cars, electric trams, buses and a few railway photos.  Also several maps of Edinburgh's bus and tram routes.   Links to pages with Photos of Groups   Frequently Asked Questions

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