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Recollections
Portobello
from 1950s
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1. |
Eric GOLD
East London |
- Jock the Donkey
- The Skylark
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Eleanor WOOD |
- Tower Street Amusement Arcade
- The Skylark
- Donkeys
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3. |
Eric GOLD
East London |
- The Skylark
- Donkeys
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4. |
Archie FOLEY
Joppa, Edinburgh |
- The Skylark
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5. |
Carol IRWIN
Linlithgow, West Lothian, Scotland |
- Portobello Open Air Pool
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6. |
George T SMITH
British Columbia, Canada |
- Portobello Open Air Pool
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7. |
Eleanor WOOD |
- Tower Street Amusement Arcade
- The Skylark
- Donkeys
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8. |
Michael MELROSE
Edinburgh |
- The Skylark
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9. |
Hugh LOVATT
Edinburgh |
- The Skylark
- The Beach
- Towerbank School
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10. |
George RENTON
Mississauga,
Ontario, Canada |
- Two Skylarks?
- St John's School
- Home
- Outdoors
- Return to Portobello
- Brook Bond Chimps
- Railways
- Free Entertainment
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11. |
Archie YOUNG
Moredun, Edinburgh |
- Di Marco's Cafe
- St John's School
- Neighbours
- Prefabs
- Televisions
- In the Street
- Eastfield
- Coillesdene House
- Toilets and Cafe
- Paddling Pool
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12. |
Jim CAMPBELL
St Fillans, Perthshire, Scotland |
- George Renton & Family
- Fish Lorries
- The Journey South
- Food
- Home Again
- Ice Cubes
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13. |
Linda MONTGOMERY
Old Town, Edinburgh |
- The Gibson
Family
- Deck Chairs
- Lost Children
- The Beach
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14. |
Murray WILSON |
- Power Station
- Open Air Pool
- DUCKs
- Cinema
- Cassidy Family
- Powderhall Sprints
- Trams
- 1929 Riley
- Change
- Regards
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15. |
Thomas QUIGLEY
SW France |
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St John's School
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16. |
Sylvia WILSON
nee
MURRAY
Northamptonshire, England |
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Seabeach Hotel question
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17. |
Alistair FRASER |
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Growing up in Portobello
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Glassworks
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Friends
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Move to Australia
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18. |
Bob WILSON
Leeds, West Yorkshire, England |
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The Tea Shop
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19. |
Patricia MacDONALD
nee
THOMSON
Portobello, Edinburgh |
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Message from George Renton
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Message from Archie Young
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Memories
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20. |
Keith MILLER |
- The
Skylark
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21. |
Alistair FRASER
Australia |
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Potteries
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Railways
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Swimming
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Summer Holidays
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22. |
Christine ANDERSON
(nee KEITH)
Duddingston, Edinburgh |
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Portobello Town Hall
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Friends
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Demarco's
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22. |
Christine ANDERSON
(nee KEITH)
Duddingston, Edinburgh |
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Portobello Town Hall
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Friends
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Demarco's
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Recollections
1.
Eric Gold
East London |
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Thank you to Eric Gold, East London for telling me the
following story from the time when he was living at Craigmillar.
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Jock the Donkey
"When
my mother took me and my family to Portobello on the hot sunny school
holidays from Craigmillar. It was like a dream come true, all the
shows and a trip on the famous Skylark pleasure boat.
The Cadonna
family ran the donkeys and the Amusement Park. My
PT teacher, Mr Cossar, used to work for the Cadonna family and was in
charge of the donkeys and the Skylark.
On the beach at Portobello we would queue up for the donkey ride as
there must have been about 12 donkeys, maybe more - but
Jock, I will never forget him. He was a light grey donkey with
black patches.
I said to Mr Cossar, "Can I feed him?" and he said, "OK but watch your
fingers," I fed him sweets and my candy floss and Jock and I were
friends, so I thought, and I had a great ride on him thinking I was the
Lone Ranger.
But about 2 weeks later I was there again with a carrot for Jock. He ate
it and caught my finger in his mouth, but my mother pulled me away from
him very swiftly as Jock would have taken my hand off. ..."
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The Skylark
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"... It was my fault really, and as Mr Cossar was fair and square and said to my
mum, "Eric can have the rest of the season free sailing on the Skylark,
but don't tell anyone as I am his PT instructor at school in Leith."
So all in all it was Jock that done me a favour as it was the
Skylark at Portobello that gave me the urge to go to sea. Not forgetting
Mr Cossar too.
I did bump into Mr Cossar in Princess Street years later and we spoke
about Jock and the Skylark which cruised the Forth. Sometimes it
would pass Granton, what a treat.
He did ask me what I was working at, and I said that I'm a first class
waiter aboard the Queen Mary, He jokingly said "You can work for me on
the Skylark (ha ha ha)."
He was the Best PT teacher ever in Edinburgh as he would do other
schools too, and had a great sense of humour.
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Eric Gold, East
London. March 20+21, 2006
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Recollections
2.
Eleanor Wood
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Thank you to Eleanor Wood who wrote:
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Tower Street Amusement
Arcade
"I
was brought up in Tower Street in 1962. I lived in the old block of houses
right at the back of the shows. My dad used to empty the machines at
night, I would see him with a big silver box full of pennies.
The
first song I can remember blaring out was 'My Boy Lollypop'."
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'The Skylark'
"During
the day the tractor used to pull out a gangway and push it into the sea.
We would walk onto it, once the tide came in, and board my favourite boat
'The Skylark'.
It
took you out into the fourth and a wee trip around and back. I loved it.
Does
anyone have a picture of the Skylark now? I'd love to see it again.
What happened to it?
Someone
told me it lay on the beach and fell apart, they came along and flung sand
over it? I cant remember that."
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Donkeys
"The
donkeys were kept next to Rosefied Cottages, on the corner of Mentone
Avenue. I felt sorry for them. When I went to school Towerbank
primary they made such a noise, and it stunk.
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Tower
Street was full of wee cottages and old tenements opposite. Also, I
think there was factories opposite. Dose anyone have pictures?"
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Eleanor Wood: May 16, 2007 |
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Recollections
3.
Eric Gold
East London |
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Thank you to Eleanor Wood who wrote:
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'The Skylark'
"The
Skylark was sailed by a man called Mr Cossar, our gym teacher. He
was related to the Cadonna family who had the pier attractions and the
amusements stalls in Portobello in the 1960s, when I used to go there.
I can
quite believe the Cadonnas buried the Skylark on the beach in Portobello
(ha ha ha ha).
Mr
Cossar and the Cadonnas were friends of our family and Mr Cossar said if
you can steer the Skylark around Inchkeith Island I will get you a job as
captain on the Queen Mary (ha ha ha ha)."
Eric Gold, East London: May 19, 2007 |
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A few years later, Eric got a job on the
Queen Mary - but not Captain!
- Peter Stubbs: May 19, 2007
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Donkeys
"The
donkeys were well kept, wherever they stayed. The Cadonna family had
owned them too and never mistreated them. They were well fed and the
vet called in once a week to give them a check up.
I met
Mr Cossar when I was at sea. He told me about the donkeys. I
was also a friend of John Cadonna. The Cadonnas and our family were
as thick as thieves.
Eric Gold, East London: May 19, 2007 |
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Recollections
3.
(ctd)
Mr Cossar
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Question
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Eric Gold, who sent the recollections,
above, about Mr Cossar wonders if anybody can remember his first name.
If you know it,
please e-mail me, then I'll pass on your message to Eric.
Thank you.
- Peter Stubbs: June 3, 2007 |
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Reply |
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Thank you to Dorothy Jenkins, Canada, for
e-mailing me, with a
message concerning Mr Cossar and his step daughter, Dorothy, and
giving a possible first name for Mr Cossar - 'Frank'
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Recollections
4.
Archie Foley
Joppa, Edinburgh |
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Thank you to Archie Foley for sending me this photograph of 'The
Skylark', and the following comment.
Archie wrote:
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'The Skylark'
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"My
information is that the Skylark was berthed at Fisherrow when not plying
its trade at Portobello, so it probably finished its days there or was
sold. Its timbers would have been revealed by now had it been buried on
the beach."
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Archie Foley, Joppa,
Edinburgh: May 20, 2007
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Recollections
5.
Carol Irwin
Linlithgow, West Lothian, Scotland |
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Portobello Open Air Pool,
beside Portobello Power station opened in 1936. It finally closed in
1980.
Thank you to Carole
Irwin for adding the following comment to the EdinPhoto Guest Book: |
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Portobello Open Air Pool
"Oh joy !! What memories I had from the open air swimming pool !!
It's
where i learned to swim !!. Long summers, penny biscuits, swimming
all day...
You
could even bring a favourite record to be played over the P.A.!!
Oh
joy!! i remember a lovely chap called Ned who was a channel swimmer !!.
I also remember the famous announcement every hour..'
'THE WAVES WILL BE ON IN 5 MINUTES TIME'
Heaven... "
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Carole Irwin,
Linlithgow, West Lothian, Scotland.
Message left in EdinPhoto guest book: March 24, 2006
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Recollections
6.
George Smith
British Columbia, Canada |
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George Smith, replying to
Carole Irwin's message, wrote:
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Portobello Open Air Pool
"Carole Irwin's memory of "a lovely guy called Ned" was possibly one of
Ned Barnie whom I remember inspired us Boy Scouts with a demonstration of
swimming at Dalry Baths where he swam underwater for over a length.
I wonder if anyone else remembers being taught to swim by Nancy Riach
sometime in the 40's.
She was an Olympic competitor at, I think, the Munich Games. The training
pool was in the basement of a primary school whose name I have forgotten
but it was near Boroughmuir."
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George Smith, British
Columbia, Canada 25 March 2006 |
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Recollections
7.
John Wilson
Frome Somerset, England |
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John Wilson, Frome, Somerset,
wrote:
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Ned Barnie
"I was so pleased to read Carol Irwin on Portobello and Ned. He
lived in Portobello but he was a teacher of science at David Kilpatrick's
School in Leith and a real good friend. Nothing was to much for him.
I think that Portobello had a man to be proud of. I am glad that I
am not the only one to remember him."
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John Wilson, Frome, Somerset, England: May 22, 2007 |
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Recollections
8.
Michael Melrose
Frome, Somerset, England |
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Michael Melrose, Edinburgh, wrote: |
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'The Skylark'
"The
Skylark was still going into the early 1960s. It was painted a vivid
sky blue and had a little funnel. It wasn’t very big.
I
remember going out on to a small wooden pier at low tide before going out
around the bay on it."
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Michael Melrose, Edinburgh: August 31, 2007 |
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Recollections
9.
Hugh Lovatt
Selkirk, Scottish Borders |
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Hugh Lovatt wrote: |
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'The Skylark'
"I
was standing on the Promenade at Portobello, the day the Skylark broke
free and smashed into it, just east of the Bath Street end.
The
Skylark smashed to smithereens. What a sight it was! We all
watched it coming slowly in on the high storm waves. It was about 30
yards east of the Bath street end of the beach, and then it hit the
concrete slope and ended up as match wood. I don't think it was ever
re-built."
I was born at 6 Regent Street in 1949. I
think I may have been about, 8 years old when the Skylark broke free.
Sorry I can't be be more specific."
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The Beach
"I
remember the Shire horses used for cleaning up the beach."
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Towerbank School
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"I
went to Towerbank school in 1954. Does anybody remember the school
then?"
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Michael Melrose, Edinburgh: August 31, 2007 |
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Recollections
10.
George
Renton
Mississauga,
Ontario, Canada
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Thank you to George Renton who wrote: |
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Two 'Skylarks'?
"I grew up in and around Porty and Joppa in
the 'fifties and 'sixties. I have just read the thread about the 'Skylark'
and would like to add that although quite young at the time it seems to me
that there may have been two boats, one after the other that were named
SKYLARK, and I don't mean when they ran the duck.
The second SKYLARK was a better boat than the
first. Perhaps they did a re-fit and changed the deck layout to
accommodate more passengers." |
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St John's School
"I also went to Saint John's school and had Mr
Cossar as a teacher. I recall he used to mention his Russian heritage, and
would get your attention by saying: "Right! Sports fans." He was
quite pleasant, but for the most part they where a strap- happy lot, and I
got my share.
I remember Maria Di Marco, with long brown
hair and olive skin. She would stand up and take double-handers without a
tear. I believe her family had a restaurant in Porty, as did the Valvona
family." |
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Home
"When I was very young we also lived on Milton
Terrace
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in a prefab. My late brother, Jimmy Smith, would be known to
June and Jim, as he was the same age as June.
Later, we moved to Coillesdene Grove.
I'd walk by myself back to the old neighbourhood, and visit the
Campbell's. Jim's Mom would always have some frozen orange-flavoured
ice cubes in the fridge, and his dad drove a van with Mac Fisheries
lettering on the side.
A couple of houses up the street, there was a
man who had an aviary in his back green. He had finches.
Further up the street, on a close, lived a
large family named Thompson or Johnston. I had two older
sisters named Janette, and Marie. They where closer in age to their
kids."
** Please see also see Jim Campbell's
memories of Milton Terrace below. |
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Outdoors
"The surrounding area had lots of vacant
tracts of land, such as the the one Jim and Archie would sled down.
David, Harry and Jack lived next to that one. Their Mum was always
baking and made us hot jam turnovers.
All and all, it was a great place to grow up
as a kid, and safe. I always wandered alone, with my dog, from Brunstane
Farms, to Millerhill Marshaling Yards, Portobello Cemetery, Musselburgh
Harbour, the rocks, the beach and Jewel Cottages. As Rab C. would
say: "I walk alone". I was a born roamer.
If I took any of the other kids with me, there
would be a collection of parents waiting at my house and I'd get a killin'
when I got home." |
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Return to Portobello
"I was home in 2006. First time in 41 years.
I visited the old hood, stopped in at the Ormie to see if any of
my brothers' pals where about, but my timing wasn't right.
I will be returning next month for about a
week. I plan to drop into Foresters in Porty and see if anyone remembers
any of my school chums.
We used to go to the football matches at the
glass works." |
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Brook Bond Chimps
"I wonder if anyone remembers when the Brook
Bond Chimps came to the Town Hall, and the collectors' cards that came in
the tea packets." |
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Railways
"Taking the train, I remember riding in the
guard's van because we couldn't reach the outside door handle by
ourselves.
I remember the baskets of racing pigeons,
outside the station master's office. We always had an eye on the
signals when playing near the tracks, hoping it might be an express." |
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Free Entertainment
"Back then, you didn't need money to have fun
all day. Life was free for the taking, one day at a time.
We came to Canada in 1965. I am happily
married with two wonderful girls, one in college, the other in University.
I have been long haul trucking for 32 years.
As beautiful as North America is, it's no' Scotland." |
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George Renton,
Mississauga,
Ontario, Canada: March 25, 2008 |
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Recollections
11.
Archie Young
Moredun, Edinburgh |
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Thank you to
Archie Young, Moredun, Edinburgh, who replied to George
Renton's comments in 10 above.
Archie wrote: |
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Di Marco's Cafe
"The girl who George Renton recalls from St
John's School may have been Margarita Di Marco. She had two
older brothers, Tony and Joseph.
I remember Papa Di Marco in his little Cafe,
opposite the Plough Bar the High Street Portobello. Papa whom my dad knew
well had done service in the Italian Army.
However, through time, the three
kids took over the running of the Cafe and Tony the eldest was the
Manager. We enjoyed going in and getting mushy peas and vinegar." |
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St John's School
"George's recollection of St John's is spot
on. They loved to hand out the belt. Mr. Meechan was the
Headmaster. His wife, Mary, was a Teacher there as well. We
called her "Crazy Mary". Then we had Miss Gourley, Miss Stone, Miss Jordan
and Sister Campion 'Darth Vader' in today's terms. Mother Vincent
she was quite nice." |
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Neighbours
"George wrote about Coillesdene Grove and the
man who had the finches, he also had budgies. His name was Mr
Allen, his son Ross was one of my pals. Perhaps George can remember
the others in the area:
- the three brothers, Brian, Denis and
Garry Dugan,
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Ross Allen,
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Andrew Owenson,
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Albert Johnson,
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Kenny Taylor,
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Andrew Anderson,
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Donald Ball and his sisters Doreen and Dorothy,
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Louie Byres,
- Robert
Ramsay,
- Jimmy
Anderson who was my Best Man,
- Marie
Melville,
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Kathleen Allison,
- Alan
Ramsay,
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Michael Bell,
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three brothers Scott, Ian and Derek Balfour." |
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Prefabs
"Then there was the Thomson family, I think
there was twelve of them, all living in a prefab. They were a nice
happy family, I think they did well for themselves when they grew up.
Their father drove one of the early Concrete Mix trucks with the big mixer
on the back. After we left Coillesdene I heard that he was
killed when it rolled over, such a tragedy to a nice family." |
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Televisions
Kathleen Allison's mum and dad had the first
TV within the prefabs of Coillesdene. We would all queue up outside
the gate to see if we could get in. I was lucky, being her pal I was
always first, then my mum and dad got a TV, so we were the second family
to have one.
Children's Hour started at five o clock till
five thirty, then later on for the adults it started at seven o clock till
nine thirty. Of course by this time we would all be in bed. We
were in bed by eight o clock." |
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In the Street
"I remember Asa Wasi. Then there
was Onion Johnny, he rode a push bike loaded with onions, he wore a black
or dark blue beret.
Another chap on a bike came round to sharpen
knives shears and whatever. On the bike was a grinding wheel, I
think his bike had a stand built into it, he would stand it up then lock
the grinding wheel to the pedals so it would turn. It was quite a
crafty set-up.
Then the steam road roller would come along
and we would all get a free ride on it." |
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Eastfield
"I wonder if George can remember Roper's Paper
Shop at Eastfield, where the old 25 & 26 Bus Terminus was. You would
walk along towards Eastfield. Roper's shop was on the corner at the
start of the buildings. It's now a house.
At Eastfield there was a Petrol Station and
Garage. Behind that, there was a small caravan site, with only about
a half dozen caravans or so." |
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Coillesdene
House
"Back towards Joppa, and opposite the toilets,
was the large Coillesdene House. I remember a lad that I used
to pal about with lived there with his family and many others.
Sadly, I can't remember his name.
Coillesdene House
was like a temporary lodging house where family's
were waiting to be re-housed. I think the rent then was about five
shillings a week. The room his family had was enormous with
elaborate furnishings from the original owner's days. The council
must have made a fortune when they sold it. Now on the site there is
high rise flats." |
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Toilets and
Cafe
"Across the road were the Ladies and Gents
toilets. My mum was in charge of the Ladies. Next to that, on
the corner leading onto the Prom was a Cafe. I can't remember what
it was called.
The man who owned it was big in build, bald
and had a hearing aid, the hearing aid must have been turned down as we
had to shout at him with our orders. Boy, was he grumpy!" |
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Paddling Pool
"Behind the toilets the council had built a
paddling pool. This was great in the summer. It was in the
letter 'D' shape
All the kids were happy as Larry, paddling
about and sailing their wee boats. Eventually the morons stepped in
and started to throw clear coloured broken glass in it. Some kids
got really nasty cuts. Eventually nobody would use it and it fell
into decay. It has now gone." |
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Archie Young, Moredun,
Edinburgh: March 30, 2008 |
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Recollections
12.
Jim Campbell
St Fillans, Perthshire,
Scotland
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Thank you to
Jim Campbell for sending this message after reading George
Renton's comments about his
Milton Terrace above.
Jim wrote: |
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George Renton &
Family
"It's been a
while since I've been on the site and was delighted to read George's
memories of our childhood and my parents. I remember his parents, Mary and
George Renton and of course, George, Jimmy, Jeanette and Maria well." |
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Fish Lorries
George's dad drove lorries for British
Road Services, Ocean Fishing Company - Granton
/ Newhaven, Joe Croan and Saddlers of
Leith.
When I was around twelve, I used
to hang around when the lorry was parked outside our house,
loaded with fish boxes to go to markets down south - usually
Hull or Grimsby.
George would see me and say, "Are
you coming?". I would rush into my mum and dad and say, "I'm
going with Mr Renton to 'wherever' ."
Young George was just a toddler at
the time and wanted to join the adventure too, but was
regretfully told by his dad, "You're too wee,
son - get back hame". Usually Jeanette or Marie would come and
get him and drag him back home crying (poor wee soul!)." |
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The Journey South
The passenger side of the lorry
was full of old fish- smelling ropes
and the engines were in the cab, with a big padded cover over
them. They were very noisy and hot.
Half the time, I fell asleep
before Tranent. There were no motorways then and the main road
was the A1 south. At that time,
at night, there was hardly any traffic on the road and it was
fascinating to go through places like Morpeth and Alnwick." |
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Food
It felt like we had the whole
world to ourselves as we went through deserted towns. The
highlight was stopping in one of the aforementioned places, at
one of the trucker's Greasy Spoon cafes. George always used to
buy me the biggest mug of tea and delicious breakfast fry-up I
had ever seen.
When we arrived at our destination
the boxes of fish were unloaded at the market for the morning
auction. Mr Renton would then take us
to another cafe for mugs of tea and toast before
we helped him to load the lorry with
empty fish boxes for the return journey.
I felt like a king and loved
accompanying him on his travels." |
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Home Again
On getting home, he would say,
"I'm away for a kip, then I'm off to 'The Ormelie'." Mr Renton
was always immaculate in his bib and brace overalls and
polished boots. His swept back hair, with centre parting
reminded me of Dean Martin. He was a nice guy and I remember
him with great fondness.
Mary Renton was also a lovely
person. When the family moved to
Coillesdene, I visited them, after I became an engineer
in the Merchant Navy, when on leave.
As I had several months'
leave to take, George got me a job, for a few months, driving
locally for Saddlers Transport, Leith." |
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Ice Cubes
"I'm
amazed that young George remembers the
orange ice cubes. All the
prefabs had fridges, a luxury, in these days and they ran off
gas. Those were happy times." |
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Jim
Campbell, St Fillans Perthshire, Scotland: July 13, 2008 |
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Recollections
13.
Linda Montgomery
Old Town, Edinburgh |
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Thank you to Linda Montgomery added:
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The Gibson Family
"One of the families whose children I
played with when I was young at Niddrie Mill was the Gibsons.
Their father was a coal merchant in the winter time, delivering
across Edinburgh, and in the summertime, he rented deck-chairs at
the bottom of Bath Street in Portobello."
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Deck Chairs
There were two girls around my age,
Heather, who was two years younger, and
her sister Julia, who has unhappily been dead for many years.
We three were on the beach most days during the
school holidays helping out. By that, I mean:
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carrying the deck chair to where
the hirer wanted to sit, showing them how to put it up -
yes, it's not just in comedy sketches that people get tangled up
in their chair, and
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collecting them after the folks
had left the beach.
We would get free rides on the donkeys
as well, since the man who owned them kept them in stables
next door to where the deck chairs were kept during the summer.
For doing this we would get lunch in
one of the restaurants on the beach, and ice cream and money to
spend at the shows or in the arcade.
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Lost Children
Sometimes we would meet up with other
children who were at the beach with their parents, but had
wandered too far away and had got lost, and it was only when it
began to get cooler and they were hungry, that they would begin to
get upset !
Luckily, there was a place where lost
children would go, or be taken to, just off the beach.
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The Beach
"As a teenager, I had a friend who
lived just near Towerbank school, and she told me that her father,
who got up early in the morning to work on the railway, used to
take their dog, (a wee west highland terrier) for a run on the
beach.
Goodness knows what anyone meeting him
must've thought, he would be wearing a pair of swimming trunks and
a pair of waders, so that he wouldn't have to wash sand off his
feet and legs before going to work.
On another day at the beach, there was
a bunch of local kids playing Cowboys and
Indians, and one of these wee lads was wearing one of his
mother's sanitary towels as a mask!! In these far off times they
were with loops at each end, just handy for looping round his
ears. I wonder what his mother did when she found out?" |
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Linda (now Lyndsay) Montgomery, Old Town, Edinburgh: July
21, 2008 |
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Recollections
14.
Murray Wilson |
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Thank you to Murray Wilson
who wrote: |
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Power Station
"I was not a
resident of Portobello, but lived for eight
months in 1954/55 at Gray's Commercial Hotel in
Abercorn Terrace whilst working on the
construction of the Portobello Power Station. It was a bit closer to the
town centre than the Hamilton Lodge and across the road from a
small park." |
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Open Air Pool
"As you know
the power station was right next door to the
open air swimming pool. The pool could be
heated by passing the condenser cooling water from the power
station through the pool on its way back into
the Forth. Another notable feature of the pool
was its wave- making equipment." |
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DUCKs
"DUCKs were
mentioned. The power station had one of its own to give access to
the cooling water inlets out in the Forth, which were marked by
small towers." |
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Cinema
"Almost next door to Gray's Hotel was a
cinema, I don't think it was one of the three mentioned by another of your
correspondents. We used to go there in our
slippers. |
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Cassidy Family
"We had two Cassidys
working for us at the power station. The elder was
Willie, he'd been gassed in WW1, the other was his son but I don't
remember his name. Whether they were related to
the café people I don't know." |
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Powderhall Sprints
"There was a bar run
by Chris Lynch, the handicapper for the Powderhall
Sprints.
One of our fitters was a past winner of the
big race, his name was Sam Downie, but that was
not his running name. I think he had won about
1950, he was still competing New Year's Day 1955." |
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Trams
"Of course the trams
were still operating, though getting a bit ramshackle.
Coming down from Edinburgh at night if there were few stops to be
made was quite exciting, the tram pitched and
bucked and the window frames moved relative to
the glass." |
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1929 Riley
"I had a 1929
Riley 9 car and on rainy or snowy days it could
become quite difficult to steer as its narrow tyres tended to get
into the depressed tracks and want to follow them. |
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Change
"Looking at an
aerial photo tonight,
it seems much of what I remember is no longer
there. The power station won't be missed, but I'd think the open air
pool would be." |
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Regards
"Regards to all old
Portobelloeons." |
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Murray Wilson: November 3, 2008 |
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Recollections
15.
Thomas (Tam) Quigley
SW France |
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Thomas Quigley, who now lives in south-west France, recently posted this
message in the EdinPhoto guest book. |
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Thomas wrote
St John's School
"I attended
St John's school in the late
1950s. I know it changed to a girls'
school some time later, but I don't know when.
I recall the names
mentioned in some of the other replies. I'd love to hear from anyone
who remembers me, especially
the boys from Craigmillar.
I
played football for the school, and remember Mr
Meechan, the Headmaster. I also had
trails for Edinburgh Schoolboys, along with
Jimmy Mines who lived in the city of Edinburgh.
Hoping to hear from
someone."
email, November 27, 2008 + message posted in EdinPhoto guest book
by
Thomas Quigley, SW France: , November 27, 2008. |
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Reply to Thomas
If you'd like to contact Thomas, you'll find his
email address in one of the two messages that he posted in the EdinPhoto
guest book on November 27, 2008.
- Peter Stubbs: December 1, 2008 |
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Recollections
16.
Sylvia Wilson
nee
Murray
Northamptonshire,
England |
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Sylvia Wilson (nee Murray) lived at Greenside Row, then Bingham,
went to St Francis' School, Niddrie, then St John's school Portobello.
Sylvia wrote: |
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Question
Seabeach Hotel
"Does anybody know of any
pictures of Seabeach Hotel, Portobello? I've been searching
for a picture of the hotel. I used to sing
there with a band in the late 1950's.
I was also resident singer at the British
Legion Club in Portobello each weekend in the 1960's."
Sylvia Wilson (nee Murray), Northamptonshire, England:
December 16, 2008 |
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Messages for Sylvia
If you
know of any pictures of Seabeach Hotel,
please email me, then I'll pass on your message to Sylvia.
Thank you. - Peter Stubbs: December 18, 2008
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Reply to Sylvia
Thank you to Laura
Robertson for your reply
(sent on September 27, 2009)
telling me that your grandparents used to own Seabeach Hotel at
Portobello.
I've now passed your reply to Sylvia Wilson. I
hope she contacts you soon.
- Peter Stubbs:
September 18, 2009 |
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Recollections
17.
Alistair
Fraser
Australia
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Thank you to Alistair Fraser who wrote: |
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Growing up in Portobello
"Thanks for the tour (photos) of my
childhood in Portobello, and simpler days,
now gone. I was
born there 1947.
My dad was a shunter
at Porty railway station (goods yard).
My mother and grandmother owned and ran a boarding house just under
the bridge at Brighton Place.
I used to watch the crowds on
Trades Week, especially Glasgow
Trades, come down in their hundreds past my
house. Cooks Hotel was right on the beach
front, if my memory serves me well."
Glass Works
"The other industry,
never mentioned, was the glass works.
The horses and carts used to collect sand from the beach and take
it to the factory.
My mother would send
me out to collect the droppings for he roses.
Large Clydesdales
pulled these huge carts, two wheels only,
and this went on 5 days a week with three horses and carts doing
all the work. The sand level dropped over
the years. They
blamed tides and erosion.
I blame the glass works."
Friends
"I
knew Ned Barney very well and used to swim with
him.
My
friends included Ken Buchanan, Derek Davidson,
and Peter Warrilow, whose dad
was Head Photographer with the Daily Mail in
Edinburgh."
Move to Australia
"Since retiring from
the Army 1991, I have lived in
Australia with my family.
I try to inspire my children to go and
explore. This stems from my childhood,
living in Portobello."
Alistair Fraser, Australia:
January 27, 2009 |
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Recollections
18.
Bob Wilson
Leeds, West Yorkshire, England |
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Thank you to Bob Wilson for posting a message in the
Edinphoto guestbook.
Bob wrote: |
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The Tea Shop
"We used to go to
Portobello beach, and you could have a tea tray from 'the tea shop', to
take down to the beach. You got cups,
saucers, a tray, and a pot of tea, even milk, sugar and teaspoons.
I remember how religiously we always returned
the tray and cups to the shop."
Bob Wilson, Leeds, West Yorkshire, England:
Message posted in EdinPhoto guest book, April 23, 2009 |
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Recollections
19.
Patricia Macdonald
(nee Thomson)
Portobello, Edinburgh |
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Thank you to Patricia Macdonald for leaving this
message in the EdinPhoto guest book.
Patricia wrote: |
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Message from George
Renton
"I'd like to know more about comments
from George
Renton (10
above). He
spoke about a Thomson or
Johnston family who stayed up a close.
My
maiden name was Thomson. I stayed at 14
Milton Grove, Joppa. I didn't stay up a
close but we did have a grass triangle in front of our house beside a wee
cul-de-sac.
Some
neighbours that I recall were:
- Tom Ewing. He
was a postman
- The Scollings
- The McKays, who
stayed opposite the Scollings
- The Ledbetters, who
stayed across the road
If George
remembers any of this i would like to hear from him." |
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Message from Archie Young
"Archie Young
(11
above) spoke about Thomson
family who stayed in prefab. It was a
large family. The father was killed by
cement mixer rolling over. My father was
killed but not by a cement mixer,
I was born in
Milton Grove in 1948.
Mum and Dad were Alex
and Annie. Siblings were Yvonne, Douglas, Patricia (me), Derek, Elaine,
Ronnie, Alexis, Gerald and Stephen.
Then we moved to Bingham in
1958, where my Mum had her 10th baby, Kenneth.
Dad
started his own business as
a lime spreader, then in 1962 he was killed by his tractor rolling
off the back of his lorry.
Could this be one & the same? I'd love
love to hear from Archie concerning this."
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Memories
I
remember:
- the
25 & 26 bus terminus.
My sister was knocked down there in 1956.
So sad.
- Di Marco's,
on the High Street
- the rag and bone
man
- Onion Johnny
- the man who
sharpened knives
- the toilets and
cafe where we used to get our ice cream in summer.
Oh what great
days!"
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Patricia Macdonald, Portobello, Edinburgh:
Message posted in EdinPhoto guest book, July 5, 2009 |
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Patricia: I've sent email messages to George Renton and Archie
Young, giving them your email address and letting them know about your
message above. Perhaps you'll hear from one of them soon.
Peter Stubbs: July 7, 2009 |
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Recollections
20.
Keith Miller
Oban, Argyll & Bute, Scotland |
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Thank you to Keith Miller for returning to the topic
of the pleasure boat, the Skylark, that sailed from
Portobello.
The boat has already discussed in
Recollections 1, 2, 3, 4. 7. 8. 9 and 10 above.
Bob wrote: |
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1950s
"Yes, the Skylark
sailed from Portobello Beach from the mid-1950s until the early-1960s.
Ed Brown
"I recently found
out that the Skylark was owned and operated by Edward Brown and his
brother from the Starlyburn Boatyard, across the
Forth in Burntisland."
©
"The Skylark was
originally purchased and converted to a passenger ferry by the Browns.
Ed Brown died a few years ago after relocating across here to Oban
to run another boatyard at Gallanach."
Keith Miller: Oban, Argyll & Bute,
Scotland: November 20, 2009 |
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Recollections
21.
Alistair
Fraser
Australia
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Thank you to Alistair Fraser for leaving this message
in the EdinPhoto guestbook.
Alistair wrote: |
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Potteries
"I lived in Brighton Place,
and used to watch the potter making pots etc.
when the pottery was was in full swing,
Railways
"My dad worked
for the railways when the station was open. We
watched the crowds come down for their holidays for the Glasgow
Fair."
Swimming
"Portobello was
a busy centre. The pool was a big
attraction for kids like me - pay
at the entrance and spend the day there,
or stay until you became
so cold that hypothermia was setting in.
I used to pal around with Kenny Buchanan,
and try to keep up with old Ned Barney as he set off for the Pans
each day. He was one of my heros."
Summer Holidays
"Our summer holidays
were full and we had nothing - maybe a push bike
we had made from scrap. I have many,
many happy memories. We had no
internet, no mobile phones and you made
your own fun.
When
I see the kids nowadays, I
don't feel sorry for them. I think,
'Look what your missing'."
Alistair Fraser, Australia:
Message posted in EdinPhoto guestbook: January 2, 2010 |
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Recollections
22.
Christine
Anderson (nee
Keith)
Duddingston, Edinburgh |
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Thank you to Christine Anderson (nee Keith) who wrote:
Portobello Town Hall
"There was dancing at
Portobello Town Hall on a Saturday night.
The group appearing at the time when I went there
was 'The Mark Five'
I also remember Gene Vincent being there.
Upstairs, there was
a Milk Bar where you would get a glass of orange and a packet of crisps
- no alcohol ! I remember
'Big Hughie' who took
the money and allowed you to in."
Friends
"I still remember
some of the people who frequented there:
-
Mike Collins
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Lockie Marshall -
His father had a Butcher's shop in
Portobello.
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Andy Fairholm
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Janice Watters
-
Anne Laidlaw
and many more who were part of the Portobello
circuit."
Demarco's
Sunday afternoon was spent
in Jakes Locker, then after
we went on to Demarcos cafe for
hot peas and vinegar !!!
I hope
this may jostle some of you viewers
!!
Christine Anderson (nee Keith),
Duddingston, Edinburgh May 18, 2009 |
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Recollections
23.
Brian Ware
North Berwick, East
Lothian, Scotland |
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Thank you to Brian Ware who wrote:
William Arthur Ware
"I wonder if anyone can help me with a
family query. I am looking for any info (good or bad) about the WARE
family in Portobello.
My late dad, William Arthur
Ware:
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had a shoe shop at 233 High Street, Porty,
next to the old Bluebell Inn.
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was, for a
while, 'in partnership'
with a McWilliams.
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had 4 cars,
perhaps a taxi service
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had a red Norton bike with sidecar.
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was supposed to have fruit/veg shops in
Porty.
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had a caravan in the old caravan park
at Eastfield.
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always went to Copeland's restaurant
for his lunch.
- lived in
a house behind the wee Gift Box on the Prom.
The houses are gone now.
I only lived with him for about a year."
Portobello Entertainment
"I remember the
Skylark, the Ducks and the Fun City etc. at Portobello.
A guy called Dave/Davy ran the Magic Mirrors is
said to be a friend of my dad.
If anyone has any knowledge of the family I
would be pleased to hear from them."
Brian Ware, North Berwick, East Lothian
Scotland:
Message posted in EdinPhoto guest book: March 4, 2010. |
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Reply to Brian
If you'd like to send a
reply to Brian, please either add your reply to the guest book message
that he posted on March 4, 2010 or else
email me, then I'll pass your message on to him.
Thank you.
- Peter Stubbs, March 4, 2010 |
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