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Recollections

Portobello

from 1950s

1.

Eric GOLD
East London

-  Jock the Donkey

-  The Skylark

2.

Eleanor WOOD

-  Tower Street Amusement Arcade

-  The Skylark

-  Donkeys

3.

Eric GOLD
East London

-  The Skylark

-  Donkeys

4.

Archie FOLEY
Joppa, Edinburgh

-  The Skylark

5.

Carol IRWIN
Linlithgow, West Lothian, Scotland

-  Portobello Open Air Pool

6.

George T SMITH
British Columbia, Canada

-  Portobello Open Air Pool

7.

Eleanor WOOD

-  Tower Street Amusement Arcade

-  The Skylark

-  Donkeys

8.

Michael MELROSE
Edinburgh

-  The Skylark

9.

Hugh LOVATT
Edinburgh

-  The Skylark

-  The Beach

-  Towerbank School

10.

George RENTON
Mississauga, Ontario,  Canada

-  Two Skylarks?

-  St John's School

-  Home

-  Outdoors

-  Return to Portobello

-  Brook Bond Chimps

-  Railways

-  Free Entertainment

11.

Archie YOUNG
Moredun, Edinburgh

-  Di Marco's Cafe

-  St John's School

-  Neighbours

-  Prefabs

-  Televisions

-  In the Street

-  Eastfield

-  Coillesdene House

-  Toilets and Cafe

-  Paddling Pool

12.

Jim CAMPBELL
St Fillans, Perthshire, Scotland

George Renton & Family

-  Fish Lorries

-  The Journey South

-  Food

-  Home Again

-  Ice Cubes

13.

Linda MONTGOMERY
Old Town, Edinburgh

The Gibson Family

-  Deck Chairs

-  Lost Children

-  The Beach

14.

Murray WILSON

Power Station

-  Open Air Pool

-  DUCKs

-  Cinema

-  Cassidy Family

-  Powderhall Sprints

-  Trams

-  1929 Riley

-  Change

-  Regards

15.

Thomas QUIGLEY
SW France

St John's School

16.

Sylvia WILSON
nee
MURRAY

Northamptonshire, England

Seabeach Hotel  question

17.

Alistair FRASER

Growing up in Portobello

-  Glassworks

-  Friends

-  Move to Australia

18.

Bob WILSON
Leeds, West Yorkshire, England

The Tea Shop

19.

Patricia MacDONALD
nee
THOMSON

Portobello, Edinburgh

Message from George Renton

-  Message from Archie Young

-  Memories

20.

Keith MILLER

The Skylark

21.

Alistair FRASER
Australia

Potteries

-  Railways

-  Swimming

-  Summer Holidays

22.

Christine ANDERSON
(nee KEITH)
Duddingston, Edinburgh

Portobello Town Hall

-  Friends

-  Demarco's

22.

Christine ANDERSON
(nee KEITH)
Duddingston, Edinburgh

Portobello Town Hall

-  Friends

-  Demarco's

 

Recollections

1.

 Eric Gold

East London

Thank you to Eric Gold, East London for telling me the following story from the time when he was living at Craigmillar. 

Jock the Donkey

"When my mother took me and my family to Portobello on the hot sunny school holidays from Craigmillar.  It was like a dream come true, all the shows and a trip on the famous Skylark pleasure boat.

The Cadonna family ran the donkeys and the Amusement Park.  My PT teacher, Mr Cossar, used to work for the Cadonna family and was in charge of the donkeys and the Skylark.

On the beach at Portobello we would queue up for the donkey ride as there must have been about 12 donkeys, maybe more  -  but Jock, I will never forget him.  He was a light grey donkey with black patches.

I said to Mr Cossar, "Can I feed him?" and he said, "OK but watch your fingers," I fed him sweets and my candy floss and Jock and I were friends, so I thought, and I had  a great ride on him thinking I was the Lone Ranger.

But about 2 weeks later I was there again with a carrot for Jock. He ate it and caught my finger in his mouth, but my mother pulled me away from him very swiftly as Jock would have taken my hand off. ..."

The Skylark

   'The Skylark' at Portobello Beach ©
 

"... It was my fault really, and as Mr Cossar was fair and square and said to my mum, "Eric can have the rest of the season free sailing on the Skylark, but don't tell anyone as I am his PT instructor at school in Leith."

So all in all it was Jock that done me a favour as it was the Skylark at Portobello that gave me the urge to go to sea. Not forgetting Mr Cossar too.

I did bump into Mr Cossar in Princess Street years later and we spoke about Jock and the Skylark which cruised the Forth.  Sometimes it would pass Granton, what a treat.

He did ask me what I was working at, and I said that I'm a first class waiter aboard the Queen Mary, He jokingly said "You can work for me on the Skylark (ha ha ha)."

He was the Best PT teacher ever in Edinburgh as he would do other schools too, and had a great sense of humour.

Eric Gold,  East London.  March 20+21, 2006

 

Recollections

2.

Eleanor Wood

Thank you to Eleanor Wood  who wrote:

Tower Street Amusement Arcade

"I was brought up in Tower Street in 1962. I lived in the old block of houses right at the back of the shows. My dad used to empty the machines at night, I would see him with a big silver box full of pennies.

The first song I can remember blaring out was 'My Boy Lollypop'."

'The Skylark'

"During the day the tractor used to pull out a gangway and push it into the sea.  We would walk onto it, once the tide came in, and board my favourite boat 'The Skylark'.

It took you out into the fourth and a wee trip around and back. I loved it.

Does anyone have a picture of the Skylark now?  I'd love to see it again.  What happened to it?

Someone told me it lay on the beach and fell apart, they came along and flung sand over it?  I cant remember that."

Donkeys

"The donkeys were kept next to Rosefied Cottages, on the corner of Mentone Avenue.  I felt sorry for them.  When I went to school Towerbank primary they made such a noise, and it stunk.

Towerbank School, Portobello  -  July 2004 ©

Tower Street was full of wee cottages and old tenements opposite.  Also, I think there was factories opposite.  Dose anyone have pictures?"

Eleanor Wood:  May 16, 2007

 

 Recollections

3.

Eric Gold

East London

Thank you to Eleanor Wood  who wrote:

'The Skylark'

"The Skylark was sailed by a man called Mr Cossar, our gym teacher.  He was related to the Cadonna family who had the pier attractions and the amusements stalls in Portobello in the 1960s, when I used to go there.

I can quite believe the Cadonnas buried the Skylark on the beach in Portobello (ha ha ha ha).

Mr Cossar and the Cadonnas were friends of our family and Mr Cossar said if you can steer the Skylark around Inchkeith Island I will get you a job as captain on the Queen Mary (ha ha ha ha)."

Eric Gold, East London: May 19, 2007

A few years later, Eric got a job on the Queen Mary -  but not Captain!

-  Peter Stubbs:  May 19, 2007

Donkeys

"The donkeys were well kept, wherever they stayed.  The Cadonna family had owned them too and never mistreated them.  They were well fed and the vet called in once a week to give them a check up.

I met Mr Cossar when I was at sea.  He told me about the donkeys.  I was also a friend of John Cadonna.  The Cadonnas and our family were as thick as thieves.

Eric Gold, East London: May 19, 2007

 

 Recollections

3. (ctd)

Mr Cossar

Question

Eric Gold, who sent the recollections, above, about Mr Cossar wonders if anybody can remember his first name.  If you know it, please e-mail me, then I'll pass on your message to Eric.

Thank you.    -  Peter Stubbs:  June 3, 2007

Reply

Thank you to Dorothy Jenkins, Canada, for e-mailing me, with a message concerning Mr Cossar and his step daughter, Dorothy, and giving a possible first name for Mr Cossar  - 'Frank'

 

 Recollections

4.

Archie Foley

Joppa, Edinburgh

Thank you to Archie Foley for sending me this photograph of 'The Skylark', and the following comment.

Archie wrote:

'The Skylark'

   'The Skylark' at Portobello Beach ©

"My information is that the Skylark was berthed at Fisherrow when not plying its trade at Portobello, so it probably finished its days there or was sold. Its timbers would have been revealed by now had it been buried on the beach."

Archie Foley, Joppa, Edinburgh:  May 20, 2007

 

 Recollections

5.

Carol Irwin

Linlithgow, West Lothian, Scotland

Portobello Open Air Pool, beside Portobello Power station opened in 1936.  It finally closed in 1980.

Thank you to Carole Irwin for adding the following comment to the EdinPhoto Guest Book:

Portobello Open Air Pool

"Oh joy !!  What memories I had from the open air swimming pool !!    It's where i learned to swim !!.  Long summers, penny biscuits, swimming all day...

You could even bring a favourite record to be played over the P.A.!!

Oh joy!! i remember a lovely chap called Ned who was a channel swimmer !!.  I also remember the famous announcement every hour..'

'THE WAVES WILL BE ON IN 5 MINUTES TIME'

Heaven... "

Carole Irwin, Linlithgow, West Lothian, Scotland.
Message left in EdinPhoto guest book: March 24, 2006

 

 Recollections

6.

George Smith

British Columbia, Canada

George Smith, replying to Carole Irwin's message, wrote:

Portobello Open Air Pool

"Carole Irwin's memory of "a lovely guy called Ned" was possibly  one of Ned Barnie whom I remember inspired us Boy Scouts with a  demonstration of swimming at Dalry Baths where he swam underwater for  over a length.

I wonder if anyone else remembers being taught to swim  by Nancy Riach sometime in the 40's.

She was an Olympic competitor  at, I think, the Munich Games. The training pool was in the basement  of a primary school whose name I have forgotten but it was near  Boroughmuir."

 

George Smith, British Columbia, Canada 25 March 2006

 

 Recollections

7.

John Wilson

Frome Somerset, England

John Wilson, Frome, Somerset, wrote:

Ned Barnie

"I was so pleased to read Carol Irwin on Portobello and Ned.  He lived in Portobello but he was a teacher of science at David Kilpatrick's School in Leith and a real good friend.  Nothing was to much for him.

I think that Portobello had a man to be proud of.  I am glad that I am not the only one to remember him."

John Wilson, Frome, Somerset, England:  May 22, 2007

 

 Recollections

8.

Michael Melrose

Frome, Somerset, England

 Michael Melrose, Edinburgh, wrote:

'The Skylark'

"The Skylark was still going into the early 1960s.  It was painted a vivid sky blue and had a little funnel. It wasn’t very big.

I remember going out on to a small wooden pier at low tide before going out around the bay on it."

Michael Melrose, Edinburgh:  August 31, 2007

 

 Recollections

9.

Hugh Lovatt

Selkirk, Scottish Borders

 Hugh Lovatt wrote:

'The Skylark'

"I was standing on the Promenade at Portobello, the day the Skylark broke free and smashed into it, just east of the Bath Street end.

The Skylark smashed to smithereens.  What a sight it was!  We all watched it coming slowly in on the high storm waves.  It was about 30 yards east of the Bath street end of the beach, and then it hit the concrete slope and ended up as match wood.  I don't think it was ever re-built."

I was born at 6 Regent Street in 1949.  I think I may have been about, 8 years old when the Skylark broke free.   Sorry I can't be be more specific."

The Beach

"I remember the Shire horses used for cleaning up the beach."

Towerbank School

  Towerbank School, Portobello  -  July 2004 ©

"I  went to Towerbank school in 1954.  Does anybody remember the school then?"

Michael Melrose, Edinburgh:  August 31, 2007

 

 Recollections

10.

George Renton

Mississauga, Ontario,  Canada

Thank you to George Renton who wrote:

Two 'Skylarks'?

"I grew up in and around Porty and Joppa in the 'fifties and 'sixties. I have just read the thread about the 'Skylark' and would like to add that although quite young at the time it seems to me that there may have been two boats, one after the other that were named SKYLARK, and I don't mean when they ran the duck.

The second SKYLARK was a better boat than the first.  Perhaps they did a re-fit and changed the deck layout to accommodate more passengers."

St John's School

"I also went to Saint John's school and had Mr Cossar as a teacher. I recall he used to mention his Russian heritage, and would get your attention by saying:  "Right! Sports fans."  He was quite pleasant, but for the most part they where a strap- happy lot, and I got my share.

I remember Maria Di Marco, with long brown hair and olive skin. She would stand up and take double-handers without a tear. I believe her family had a restaurant in Porty, as did the Valvona family."

Home

"When I was very young we also lived on Milton Terrace ** in a prefab.  My late brother, Jimmy Smith, would be known to June and Jim, as he was the same age as June.

Later, we moved to Coillesdene Grove.   I'd walk by myself back to the old neighbourhood, and visit the Campbell's.  Jim's Mom would always have some frozen orange-flavoured ice cubes in the fridge, and his dad drove a van with Mac Fisheries lettering on the side.

A couple of houses up the street, there was a man who had an aviary in his back green.  He had finches.

Further up the street, on a close, lived a large family named  Thompson or  Johnston.  I had two older sisters named Janette, and Marie.  They where closer in age to their kids."

** Please see also see Jim Campbell's memories of Milton Terrace below.

Outdoors

"The surrounding area had lots of vacant tracts of land, such as the the one Jim and Archie would sled down.  David, Harry and Jack lived next to that one.  Their Mum was always baking and made us hot jam turnovers.

All and all, it was a great place to grow up as a kid, and safe. I always wandered alone, with my dog, from Brunstane Farms, to Millerhill Marshaling Yards, Portobello Cemetery, Musselburgh Harbour, the rocks, the beach and Jewel Cottages.  As Rab C. would say: "I walk alone".  I was a born roamer.

If I took any of the other kids with me, there would be a collection of parents waiting at my house and I'd get a killin' when I got home."

Return to Portobello

"I was home in 2006. First time in 41 years.  I visited the old hood, stopped in at the Ormie to see if any of my brothers' pals where about, but my timing wasn't right.

I will be returning next month for about a week.  I plan to drop into Foresters in Porty and see if anyone remembers any of my school chums.

We used to go to the football matches at the glass works."

Brook Bond Chimps

"I wonder if anyone remembers when the Brook Bond Chimps came to the Town Hall, and the collectors' cards that came in the tea packets."

Railways

"Taking the train, I remember riding in the guard's van because we couldn't reach the outside door handle by ourselves.

I remember the baskets of racing pigeons, outside the station master's office.  We always had an eye on the signals when playing near the tracks, hoping it might be an express."

Free Entertainment

"Back then, you didn't need money to have fun all day. Life was free for the taking, one day at a time. 

We came to Canada in 1965. I am happily married with two wonderful girls, one in college, the other in University.

I have been long haul trucking for 32 years.  As beautiful as North America is, it's no' Scotland."

George Renton, Mississauga, Ontario,  Canada:  March 25, 2008

 

 Recollections

11.

Archie Young

Moredun, Edinburgh

Thank you to Archie Young, Moredun, Edinburgh,  who replied to George Renton's comments in 10 above.

Archie wrote:

Di Marco's Cafe

"The girl who George Renton recalls from St John's School  may have been Margarita Di Marco.  She had two older brothers, Tony and Joseph.

I remember Papa Di Marco in his little Cafe, opposite the Plough Bar the High Street Portobello. Papa whom my dad knew well had done service in the Italian Army.

However, through time, the three kids took over the running of the Cafe and Tony the eldest was the Manager.  We enjoyed going in and getting mushy peas and vinegar."

St John's School

"George's recollection of St John's is spot on.  They loved to hand out the belt.   Mr. Meechan was the Headmaster.  His wife, Mary, was a Teacher there as well.  We called her "Crazy Mary". Then we had Miss Gourley, Miss Stone, Miss Jordan and Sister Campion 'Darth Vader' in today's terms.  Mother Vincent she was quite nice."

Neighbours

"George wrote about Coillesdene Grove and the man who had the finches, he also had budgies.  His name was Mr Allen, his son Ross was one of my pals.  Perhaps George can remember the others in the area:

-  the three brothers, Brian, Denis and Garry Dugan,

- Ross Allen,

- Andrew Owenson,

- Albert Johnson,

- Kenny Taylor,

- Andrew Anderson,

- Donald Ball and his sisters Doreen and Dorothy,

- Louie Byres,

-  Robert Ramsay,

-  Jimmy Anderson who was my Best Man,

-  Marie Melville,

- Kathleen Allison,

-  Alan Ramsay,

Michael Bell,

-  the three brothers Scott, Ian and Derek Balfour."

Prefabs

"Then there was the Thomson family, I think there was twelve of them, all living in a prefab.  They were a nice happy family, I think they did well for themselves when they grew up.  Their father drove one of the early Concrete Mix trucks with the big mixer on the back.  After we left Coillesdene I  heard that he was killed when it rolled over, such a tragedy to a nice family."

Televisions

Kathleen Allison's mum and dad had the first TV within the prefabs of Coillesdene.  We would all queue up outside the gate to see if we could get in.  I was lucky, being her pal I was always first, then my mum and dad got a TV, so we were the second family to have one.

Children's Hour started at five o clock till five thirty, then later on for the adults it started at seven o clock till nine thirty.  Of course by this time we would all be in bed.  We were in bed by eight o clock."

In the Street

"I remember Asa Wasi.  Then there was Onion Johnny, he rode a push bike loaded with onions, he wore a  black or dark blue beret.

Another chap on a bike came round to sharpen knives shears and whatever.  On the bike was a grinding wheel, I think his bike had a stand built into it, he would stand it up then lock the grinding wheel to the pedals so it would turn.  It was quite a crafty set-up.

Then the steam road roller would come along and we would all get a free ride on it."

Eastfield

"I wonder if George can remember Roper's Paper Shop at Eastfield, where the old 25 & 26 Bus Terminus was.  You would walk along towards Eastfield.  Roper's shop was on the corner at the start of the buildings.  It's now a house.

At Eastfield there was a Petrol Station and Garage.  Behind that, there was a small caravan site, with only about a half dozen caravans or so."

Coillesdene House

"Back towards Joppa, and opposite the toilets, was the large Coillesdene House.   I remember a lad that I used to pal about with lived there with his family and many others.  Sadly, I can't remember his name.

Coillesdene House was like a temporary lodging house where family's were waiting to be re-housed.  I think the rent then was about five shillings a week.  The room his family had was enormous with elaborate furnishings from the original owner's days.  The council must have made a fortune when they sold it.  Now on the site there is high rise flats."

Toilets and Cafe

"Across the road were the Ladies and Gents toilets.  My mum was in charge of the Ladies.  Next to that, on the corner leading onto the Prom was a Cafe.  I can't remember what it was called.

The man who owned it was big in build, bald and had a hearing aid, the hearing aid must have been turned down as we had to shout at him with our orders.  Boy, was he grumpy!"

Paddling Pool

"Behind the toilets the council had built a paddling pool.  This was great in the summer.  It was in the letter 'D' shape

All the kids were happy as Larry, paddling about and sailing their wee boats.  Eventually the morons stepped in and started to throw clear coloured broken glass in it.  Some kids got really nasty cuts.  Eventually nobody would use it and it fell into decay.  It has now gone."

Archie Young, Moredun, Edinburgh:  March 30, 2008

 

 Recollections

12.

Jim Campbell

St Fillans, Perthshire, Scotland

Thank you to Jim Campbell for sending this message after reading George Renton's comments about his Milton Terrace  above.

Jim wrote:

George Renton & Family

"It's been a while since I've been on the site and was delighted to read George's memories of our childhood and my parents. I remember his parents, Mary and George Renton and of course, George, Jimmy, Jeanette and Maria well."

Fish Lorries

 George's dad drove lorries for British Road Services, Ocean Fishing Company - Granton / Newhaven, Joe Croan and Saddlers of Leith.

When I was around twelve, I used to hang around when the lorry was parked outside our house, loaded with fish boxes to go to markets down south - usually Hull or Grimsby.

George would see me and say, "Are you coming?". I would rush into my mum and dad and say, "I'm going with Mr Renton to 'wherever' .

Young George was just a toddler at the time and wanted to join the adventure too, but was regretfully told by his dad, "You're too wee, son - get back hame". Usually Jeanette or Marie would come and get him and drag him back home crying (poor wee soul!)."

The Journey South

The passenger side of the lorry was full of old fish- smelling ropes and the engines were in the cab, with a big padded cover over them. They were very noisy and hot.

Half the time, I fell asleep before Tranent. There were no motorways then and the main road was the A1 south.  At that time, at night, there was hardly any traffic on the road and it was fascinating to go through places like Morpeth and Alnwick."

Food

It felt like we had the whole world to ourselves as we went through deserted towns. The highlight was stopping in one of the aforementioned places, at one of the trucker's Greasy Spoon cafes. George always used to buy me the biggest mug of tea and delicious breakfast fry-up I had ever seen.

When we arrived at our destination the boxes of fish were unloaded at the market for the morning auction. Mr Renton would then take us to another cafe for mugs of tea and toast before we helped him to load the lorry with empty fish boxes for the return journey.

I felt like a king and loved accompanying him on his travels."

Home Again

On getting home, he would say, "I'm away for a kip, then I'm off to 'The Ormelie'." Mr Renton was always immaculate in his bib and brace overalls and polished boots. His swept back hair, with centre parting reminded me of Dean Martin. He was a nice guy and I remember him with great fondness.

Mary Renton was also a lovely person. When the family moved to Coillesdene, I visited them, after I became an engineer in the Merchant Navy, when on leave.

As I had several months' leave to take, George got me a job, for a few months, driving locally for Saddlers Transport, Leith."

Ice Cubes

"I'm amazed that young George remembers the orange ice cubes.  All the prefabs had fridges, a luxury, in these days and they ran off gas. Those were happy times."

Jim Campbell, St Fillans Perthshire, Scotland:  July 13, 2008

 

Recollections

13.

Linda Montgomery

Old Town, Edinburgh

Thank you to Linda Montgomery added:

The Gibson Family

"One of the families whose children I played with when I was young at Niddrie Mill was the Gibsons.  Their father was a coal merchant in the winter time, delivering across Edinburgh, and in the summertime, he rented deck-chairs at the bottom of Bath Street in Portobello."

Deck Chairs

There were two girls around my age, Heather, who was two years younger, and her sister Julia, who has unhappily been dead for many years.  We three were on the beach most days during the school holidays helping out.  By that, I mean:

-  carrying the deck chair to where the hirer wanted to sit, showing them how to put it up -  yes, it's not just in comedy sketches that people get tangled up in their chair, and

-  collecting them after the folks had left the beach.

We would get free rides on the donkeys as well, since the man who owned them kept them in  stables next door to where the deck chairs were kept during the summer.

For doing this we would get lunch in one of the restaurants on the beach, and ice cream and money to spend at the shows or in the arcade.

Lost Children

Sometimes we would meet up with other children who were at the beach with their parents, but had wandered too far away and had got lost, and it was only when it began to get cooler and they were hungry, that they would begin to get upset !

Luckily, there was a place where lost children would go, or be taken to, just off the beach.

The Beach

"As a teenager, I had a friend who lived just near Towerbank school, and she told me that her father, who got up early in the morning to work on the railway, used to take their dog, (a wee west highland terrier) for a run on the beach.

Goodness knows what anyone meeting him must've thought, he would be wearing a pair of swimming trunks and a pair of waders, so that he wouldn't have to wash  sand off his feet and legs before going to work.

On another day at the beach, there was a bunch of local kids playing Cowboys and Indians, and one of these wee lads was wearing one of his mother's sanitary towels as a mask!! In these far off times they were with loops at each end, just handy for looping round his ears. I wonder what his mother did when she found out?"

Linda (now Lyndsay) Montgomery, Old Town, Edinburgh:  July 21, 2008

Recollections

14.

Murray Wilson

Thank you to Murray Wilson who wrote:

Power Station

"I was not a resident of Portobello, but lived for eight months in 1954/55 at Gray's Commercial Hotel in Abercorn Terrace whilst working on the construction of the Portobello Power Station. It was a bit closer to the town centre than the Hamilton Lodge and across the road from a small park."

Open Air Pool

"As you know the power station was right next door to the open air swimming pool.  The pool could be heated by passing the condenser cooling water from the power station through the pool on its way back into the Forth. Another notable feature of the pool was its wave- making equipment."

DUCKs

"DUCKs were mentioned. The power station had one of its own to give access to the cooling water inlets out in the Forth, which were marked by small towers."

Cinema

"Almost next door to Gray's Hotel was a cinema, I don't think it was one of the three mentioned by another of your correspondents.  We used to go there in our slippers.

Cassidy Family

"We had two Cassidys working for us at the power station. The elder was Willie, he'd been gassed in WW1, the other was his son but I don't remember his name. Whether they were related to the café people I don't know."

Powderhall Sprints

"There was a bar run by Chris Lynch, the handicapper for the Powderhall Sprints.

One of our fitters was a past winner of the big race, his name was Sam Downie, but that was not his running name. I think he had won about 1950, he was still competing New Year's Day 1955."

Trams

"Of course the trams were still operating, though getting a bit ramshackle. Coming down from Edinburgh at night if there were few stops to be made was quite exciting, the tram pitched and bucked and the window frames moved relative to the glass."

1929 Riley

 "I had a 1929 Riley 9 car and on rainy or snowy days it could become quite difficult to steer as its narrow tyres tended to get into the depressed tracks and want to follow them.

Change

"Looking at an aerial photo tonight, it seems much of what I remember is no longer there. The power station won't be missed, but I'd think the open air pool would be."

Regards

"Regards to all old Portobelloeons."

Murray Wilson:  November 3, 2008

 

Recollections

15.

Thomas (Tam) Quigley

SW France

Thomas Quigley, who now lives in south-west France, recently posted this message in the EdinPhoto guest book.

Thomas wrote

St John's School

"I attended St John's school in the late 1950s.  I know it changed to a girls' school some time later, but I don't know when.

I recall the names mentioned in some of the other replies.  I'd love to hear from anyone who remembers me, especially the boys from Craigmillar.

I played football for the school, and remember Mr Meechan, the Headmaster.  I also had trails for Edinburgh Schoolboys, along with Jimmy Mines who lived in the city of Edinburgh.

Hoping to hear from someone."

email, November 27, 2008 + message posted in EdinPhoto guest book by
Thomas Quigley, SW France: , November 27, 2008.

Reply to Thomas

If you'd like to contact Thomas, you'll find his email address in one of the two messages that he posted in the EdinPhoto guest book on November 27, 2008.

-  Peter Stubbs:  December 1, 2008

 

Recollections

16.

Sylvia Wilson

nee Murray

Northamptonshire, England

Sylvia Wilson (nee Murray) lived at Greenside Row, then Bingham, went to St Francis' School, Niddrie, then St John's school Portobello.

Sylvia wrote:

Question

Seabeach Hotel

"Does anybody know of any pictures of Seabeach Hotel, Portobello?  I've been searching for a picture of the hotel.  I used to sing there with a band in the late 1950's.

I was also resident singer at the British Legion Club in Portobello each weekend in the 1960's."

Sylvia Wilson (nee Murray), Northamptonshire, England:  December 16, 2008

Messages for Sylvia

If you know of any pictures of Seabeach Hotel, please email me, then I'll pass on your message to Sylvia.

Thank you.    -  Peter Stubbs:  December 18, 2008

Reply to Sylvia

Thank you to Laura Robertson for your reply (sent on September 27, 2009) telling me that your grandparents used to own Seabeach Hotel at Portobello.

I've now passed your reply to Sylvia Wilson.  I hope she contacts you soon.

-  Peter Stubbs:    September 18, 2009

 

Recollections

17.

Alistair Fraser

Australia

Thank you to Alistair Fraser who wrote:

Growing up in Portobello

"Thanks for the tour (photos) of my childhood in Portobello, and simpler days, now goneI was born there 1947.

My dad was a shunter at Porty railway station (goods yard).  My mother and grandmother owned and ran a boarding house just under the bridge at Brighton Place.

I used to watch the crowds on Trades Week, especially Glasgow Trades, come down in their hundreds past my house.  Cooks Hotel was right on the beach front, if my memory serves me well."

Glass Works

"The other industry, never mentioned, was the glass works.  The horses and carts used to collect sand from the beach and take it to the factory.

My mother would send me out to collect the droppings for he roses.

Large Clydesdales pulled these huge carts, two wheels only, and this went on 5 days a week with three horses and carts doing all the work.  The sand level dropped over the years.  They blamed tides and erosion.   I blame the glass works."

Friends

"I knew Ned Barney very well and used to swim with him My friends included Ken Buchanan, Derek Davidson, and Peter Warrilow, whose dad was Head Photographer with the Daily Mail in Edinburgh."

Move to Australia

"Since retiring from the Army 1991, I have lived in Australia with my familyI try to inspire my children to go and explore.  This stems from my childhood, living in Portobello."

Alistair Fraser, Australia:  January 27, 2009

 

Recollections

18.

Bob Wilson

Leeds, West Yorkshire, England

Thank you to Bob Wilson for posting a message in the Edinphoto guestbook.

Bob wrote:

The Tea Shop

"We used to go to Portobello beach, and you could have a tea tray from 'the tea shop', to take down to the beach.  You got cups, saucers, a tray, and a pot of tea, even milk, sugar and teaspoons.

I remember how religiously we always returned the tray and cups to the shop."

Bob Wilson, Leeds, West Yorkshire, England:
Message posted in EdinPhoto guest book, April 23, 2009

 

Recollections

19.

Patricia Macdonald (nee Thomson)

Portobello, Edinburgh

Thank you to Patricia Macdonald for leaving this message in the EdinPhoto guest book.

Patricia wrote:

Message from George Renton

"I'd like to know more about comments from George Renton (10 above).  He spoke about a Thomson or Johnston family who stayed up a close.

My maiden name was Thomson.  I stayed at 14 Milton Grove, Joppa.  I didn't stay up a close but we did have a grass triangle in front of our house beside a wee cul-de-sac.

Some neighbours that I recall were:

-  Tom Ewing.  He was a postman

-  The Scollings

-  The McKays, who stayed opposite the Scollings

-  The Ledbetters, who stayed across the road

If George remembers any of this i would like to hear from him."

Message from Archie Young

"Archie Young  (11 above) spoke about Thomson family who stayed in prefab.  It was a large family.  The father was killed by cement mixer rolling over.  My father was killed but not by a cement mixer,

I was born in Milton Grove in 1948.  Mum and Dad were Alex and Annie. Siblings were Yvonne, Douglas, Patricia (me), Derek, Elaine, Ronnie, Alexis, Gerald and Stephen.

Then we moved to Bingham in 1958, where my Mum had her 10th baby, Kenneth.

Dad started his own business as a lime spreader, then in 1962 he was killed by his tractor rolling off the back of his lorry.  Could this be one & the same?  I'd love love to hear from Archie concerning this."

Memories

I remember:

-  the  25 & 26 bus terminus.  My sister was knocked down there in 1956.   So sad. 

-  Di Marco's, on the High Street

-  the rag and bone man

-  Onion Johnny

-  the man who sharpened knives

-  the toilets and cafe where we used to get our ice cream in summer.

Oh what great days!"

Patricia Macdonald, Portobello, Edinburgh:  Message posted in EdinPhoto guest book, July 5, 2009

Patricia:  I've sent email messages to George Renton and Archie Young, giving them your email address and letting them know about your message above.  Perhaps you'll hear from one of them soon.

Peter Stubbs:  July 7, 2009

  Recollections

20.

Keith Miller

Oban, Argyll & Bute, Scotland

Thank you to Keith Miller for returning to the topic of  the pleasure boat, the Skylark, that sailed from Portobello. 

The boat has already  discussed in Recollections 1, 2, 3, 4. 7. 8. 9 and 10 above.

Bob wrote:

1950s

"Yes, the Skylark sailed from Portobello Beach from the mid-1950s until the early-1960s.

Ed Brown

"I recently found out  that the Skylark was owned and operated by Edward Brown and his brother from the Starlyburn Boatyard, across the Forth in Burntisland."

Ed Brown, owner of the portobello pleasure boat, 'Skylark' ©

"The Skylark was originally purchased and converted to a passenger ferry by the Browns.   Ed Brown died a few years ago after relocating across here to Oban to run another boatyard at Gallanach."

Keith Miller: Oban, Argyll & Bute, Scotland:  November 20, 2009

 

Recollections

21.

Alistair Fraser

Australia

Thank you to Alistair Fraser for leaving this message in the EdinPhoto guestbook.

Alistair wrote:

Potteries

"I lived in Brighton Place, and used to watch the potter making pots etc. when the pottery was was in full swing,

Railways

"My dad worked for the railways when the station was open.  We watched the crowds come down for their holidays for the Glasgow Fair."

Swimming

"Portobello was a busy centre.  The pool was a big attraction for kids like me -  pay at the entrance and spend the day there, or stay until you became so cold that hypothermia was setting in.

I used to pal around with Kenny Buchanan, and try to keep up with old Ned Barney as he set off for the Pans each day.  He was one of my heros."

Summer Holidays

"Our summer holidays were full and we had nothing - maybe a push bike we had made from scrap.  I have many, many happy memories.  We had no internet,  no mobile phones and you made your own fun.

When I see the kids nowadays, I don't feel sorry for themI think, 'Look  what your missing'."

Alistair Fraser, Australia:  Message posted in EdinPhoto guestbook:  January 2, 2010

 

Recollections

22.

Christine Anderson (nee Keith)

Duddingston, Edinburgh

Thank you to Christine Anderson (nee Keith) who wrote:

Portobello Town Hall

"There was dancing at Portobello Town Hall on a Saturday night.  The group appearing at the time when I went there was 'The Mark Five'   I also remember Gene Vincent being there.

Upstairs, there was a Milk Bar where you would get a glass of orange and a packet of crisps - no alcohol !    I remember 'Big Hughie' who took the money and allowed you to in."

Friends

"I still remember some of the people who frequented there:

Mike Collins

Lockie Marshall - His father had a Butcher's shop in Portobello.

Andy Fairholm

Janice Watters

Anne Laidlaw

and many more who were part of the Portobello  circuit."

Demarco's

Sunday afternoon was  spent in Jakes Locker, then after we went on to Demarcos cafe for hot peas and vinegar !!!    

I hope this may jostle some of you viewers  !!  

Christine Anderson (nee Keith), Duddingston, Edinburgh  May 18, 2009

Recollections

23.

Brian Ware

North Berwick, East Lothian, Scotland

Thank you to Brian Ware who wrote:

William Arthur Ware

"I wonder if anyone can help me with a family query.  I am looking for any info (good or bad) about the WARE family in Portobello.

My late dad, William Arthur Ware:

-  had a shoe shop at 233 High Street, Porty, next to the old Bluebell Inn.

was, for a while, 'in partnership' with a McWilliams.

had 4 cars, perhaps a taxi service

-  had a red Norton bike with sidecar.

was supposed to have fruit/veg shops in Porty.

had a caravan in the old caravan park at Eastfield.

always went to Copeland's restaurant for his lunch.

lived in a house behind the wee Gift Box on the Prom. The houses are gone now.

I only lived with him for about a year."

Portobello Entertainment

"I remember the Skylark, the Ducks and the Fun City etc. at Portobello.  A guy called Dave/Davy ran the Magic Mirrors is said to be a friend of my dad.

If anyone has any knowledge of the family I would be pleased to hear from them."

Brian Ware, North Berwick, East Lothian Scotland:
Message posted in EdinPhoto guest book:  March 4, 2010.

Reply to Brian

If you'd like to send a reply to Brian, please either add your reply to the guest book message that he posted on March 4, 2010 or else email me, then I'll pass your message on to him.

Thank you.    -  Peter Stubbs, March 4, 2010

 

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