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(A)
List of Leith Pubs
Most long since gone |
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(B)
Recollections
of Leith Pubs |
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(A)
List of Leith Pubs
Most long since gone
with thanks
to Frank Ferri for also providing
the first 50 pubs
below
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1. [Name?]
Laurie St / Constitution St |
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Comment 1
"I'm told that
this pub was
Sowersbays"
Frank Ferri, Newhaven,
Edinburgh: October 12, 2008 |
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Comment 2
"I'm think this pub was
The Alan Breck, named after a
character
from the
works of Robert Louis Stevenson."
David King, Trinity,
Edinburgh: March 13, 2011 |
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2. Angel
Former Flying Angel Seaman's
Mission,
The Shore |
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3. Artisan
North
Fort St |
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4. Barney Battles
Newhaven |
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5. Berry's
Junction Bridge/Ferry Rd |
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Comment
"The Bars
used by wrestlers were Berry's and Cousin's.
These were the nearest to the Eldo, As kids, we used to
hang around
there also, waiting for the wrestlers to come
out."
Frank Ferri, Newhaven, Edinburgh:
October 15, 2008 |
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6. Berry's Two
North Fort St / Lapicide Place |
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7. Big Pipes
Kirkgate / Charlotte St |
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8. Bills Bar
The Shore next to Ship Inn |
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9. Black Bull
Salamander St |
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10. Bonnington Toll
Bonnington Rd/Newhaven Rd |
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11. Bridge Bar
Bowling Green St top of Bangor
Lane |
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12. Caledonian Bar
Leith Walk |
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13. Coburg Bar
Coburg St |
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14. Commercial Bar
Dock St |
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15. Copperfield
Marinelo's Leith Walk |
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16. Corn Exchange
Salamander St |
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17. Cousins
Corner Great Junction St /
Bowling Green St |
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Comment
"The Bars
used by wrestlers were Berry's and Cousin's.
These were the nearest to the Eldo, As kids, we used to
hang around
there also,
waiting for the wrestlers to come out."
Frank Ferri, Newhaven, Edinburgh:
October 15, 2008 |
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18. Dolphin
Crown St |
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19. Drift
Newhaven Main St, overlooking
Fishmarket Sq |
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20. Hawthorn
Between Bowling Green St &
Bangor Rd |
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21. Junction Bridge Ba
Sherry's Corner Junction Rd /
Ferry Rd |
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22. Kings Arms
Smybergs, Bowtow, Parrot Shop,
Newhaven Main St |
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23. Lothian Bar
Bonnington Rd |
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24. Maggie McFadyens
Newhaven Main St |
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25. Man At the Wheel
Sandport St |
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26. Marina Hotel
Newhaven,
now demolished |
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27. Meiklejohns
Kirkgate |
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28. Minto's
Flower of Scotland etc Academy
St / Duke St |
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29. Mr Smiths
Burns St off Lochend Rd |
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30. Myles Dolan's
Broad Pavement Henderson St |
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31. New Dock Tavern
Commercial St |
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32. Nobles
NOW
OPEN AGAIN
Constitution St |
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Comment 1
"I was reading,
with great interest, Frank Ferri’s report on
my
drinking
dens in Leith that have now
bitten
the dust.What threw me for
six was Nobles, a
great lively bar. It
was my favourite in
Leith. I'll
email Frank bout it and ask
what has become of it
- a yuppie posh bistro I reckon.
It
was a huge bar and plenty of atmosphere and the landlady was
great and
stood no nonsense from anyone."
Eric Gold, East London:
October 11, 2008 |
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Comment 2
"Nobles,
like many in the license trade in Leith have found
business tough. Most pubs in
the Shore
now sell food.
Maybe that's the
gimmick, or maybe it's
the location.
For a while, they
had
live bands on Fridays and
Saturdays. Who
knows?
It may open up again.
In my old dancing days at the Assembly Rooms,
that used to be my last watering hole before
dancing"
Frank Ferri, Newhaven, Edinburgh:
October 12, 2008 |
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Comment 3
"Nobles was a busy joint. I'd put a bet on that it was the
busiest bar in Leith,
despite the big
cat in Fairley’s (ha ha
ha ha)."
Eric Gold, East London: October 12, 2008 |
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Comment 4
"I see that
Nobles has re-opened and is looking
very nice."
J Darroch, Edinburgh: June
16, 2009
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33. North British Bar
(Hares) Duke St |
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34. OK
Kirkgate |
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35. Old Ship Inn
Fishmarket Sq Newhaven |
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36. Old Vic Bar
Junction St now bookies |
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37. Olympia Bar
Bonnington Rd |
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38. Portland Bar
Corner of Portland St /
Hamburgh Pl |
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39. Princes
Kirkgate |
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40. Schooner
Pitt St |
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41. Sinclair's
Corner Sandport
S t /Commercial |
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. Sowersbays
See 1 above. |
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42. Spiral
Holme's Bar, Constitution St |
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43. Spotted Dog
Bonnington Rd |
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44. Steamboat Tavern
Commercial St, next to old
railway station |
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45. Thorntree
Thorntree St/Easter Rd |
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Comment 1
"The Thorntree Bar
was on the corner of Ferrier Street / Easter Road.
Above the Thorntree Bar there was a pawnbroking
business, which was entered from Ferrier Street. The
the
pawnbroker's windowsoverlooked the Easter
Road thoroughfare.
I have drunk in the
Thorntree Bar and the Football Arms
frequently.I'm
saying no more on the subject of the pawnbroker."
James Brown, Perth, Western
Australia: October 12, 2008 |
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Comment 2
"Sorry to
contradict J Brown, Australia. But
why would the pub on
Ferrier
Street be
called the Thorntree, when the second street up
from it is
called Thorntree Street? - Ferrier Street, Gordon Street,
then Thorntree Street.
It
doesn't seem logical somehow."
Frank Ferri, Newhaven, Edinburgh:
October 13, 2008 |
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Comment 3
"Sorry Frank, but logic
doesn't come into it. The fact is 'The
Thorntree Bar'
was on the corner
of Ferrier Street / Easter Road.
I lived next door to it.
Check the old Street, Business or Telephone
Directory's, in the Central Library,
on George the Fourth Bridge.
The Thorntree Bar
and the Football Arms Bar (50 below)
were both still there in the
early-1960s."
James Brown, Perth, Western Australia:
October 14, 2008 |
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Comment 4
"Apologies
to James Brown. I defer
to his better local knowledge
as he lived in the area."
Frank Ferri, Newhaven, Edinburgh:
October 14, 2008 |
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Comment 5
"My father was a
train driver and worked from Leith
Central station so the pictures of Leith Central brought it back to
me.
©
He also worked in the Thorntree Bar which was on
the corner of Ferrier Street at James Brown said. My mother
was also
cleaner there."
Lorna Macey, Fife, Scotland:
October 20, 2008 |
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46. Trade Winds
Merchants, Fairley's of Leith,
Commercial St |
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47. Vintage
Henderson/Giles Streets |
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48. Ye Old Pipes
The Wee Pipes, Carpet Lane |
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49. Wright's
Bonnington Rd |
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Comment
"If this is the pub known as Mag Wright's, I
recall a conversation between my late Uncle Frank Renton, and
cousin
Robert Roger in the spring of this year. Bob
and I where over from Canada to visit with Frank
I'm sure that Uncle Frank said that the real name
of the pub was the Abbotsford Bar. The street that may have
intersected
with Bonnington Road may have been
Abbotsford
some time before.
Unfortunately, Uncle
frank passed away on November
30th. He will be
missed by us all. He lived in
Block B
Bangor Road,
Bonnington Road, Pennywell
Gardens,
Silverknowes and possibly other places
around Leith.
He was a lorry driver, and knew many people and
places. He was well known around Newhaven Fishmarket.
George Renton,
Mississauga,
Ontario, Canada:
December 15, 2008 |
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50. Ye Old Football Arms
Easter Rd/Ferrier St |
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Comment
"The
Football Arms was on the corner of Thorntree Street and Easter Road.
I have drunk there, and in Thorntree Bar, frequently
James Brown, Perth, Western Australia:
October 12, 2008 |
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51. Dan Cowan's
Foot of Leith Walk,
near Crown Place and Crown Street |
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Comment
"Dan Cowan’s, this was at the bottom of Leith
Walk near Crown Street and Place.
The pub
may have had another name and Dan Cowan may
have been the name of the owner or
manager. As I lived on the
other side of Leith Walk I
clearly remember a piper playing
outside. This was in the
1930s."
Bill Cunningham, Leith:
October 26, 2008 |
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52. The
Bowler's Rest
NOW
OPEN AGAIN
Foot of Leith Walk, near Crown Place and Crown
Street |
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Comment 1
"The Bowler's Rest was
owned in the 1960s by Lawrie
Riley, a
famous Leith footballer."
David Barrie, Adelaide, South Australia |
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Comment 2
"I am delighted to say that the Bowler's Rest
is very much
alive and
has a very busy and welcoming feel about it.
It
has been owned by
Eric Morrison for about 17 years and I
guess it
hasn't changed a
bit."
Alex Campbell, Edinburgh:
March 10, 2011 |
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Pubs Still Open |
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Not all the Leith Pubs have vanished. Many are
still open. Here are some photos of one of them: |
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Central
Bar
near the foot of Leith Walk |
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B.
Recollections
of Leith Pubs |
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1.
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Eric Gold
East End, London
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Leith Pubs
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2.
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Frank Ferri
Newhaven, Edinburgh
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Jug Bars
The Ladies
Empty Beer Bottles
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3.
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Bill Cunningham
East End, London
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Joug Bars
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4.
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Ian M
Malcolm
St Andrews, Fife, Scotland
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Closing Times
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5.
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Sheila
Fraser (nee Black)
Bathgate, West Lothian, Scotland
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1970-1974
What was S/B |
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with replies from
Neil Lawrence
Fountainbridge, Edinburgh
Frank Ferri
Newhaven, Edinburgh
John Stewart
Livingston, West Lothian, Scotland
John Stewart
Livingston, West Lothian, Scotland
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What was S/B
Pubs - unlikely
Wee Cafe
What was S/B
State Bingo |
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6.
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Margaret Clarke
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Below Queen's Hotel
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7.
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Tom
McLuskey
Canada
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More Pubs
- The King's Wark
- Billy's Bar
- The Tower Bar
- Fairleys of
Leith
1940s
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8.
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Alistair Rankine
Australia
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Crown Bar
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9.
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Frank Ferri
Newhaven, Edinburgh
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Crown Bar
Betty's
'Whispering Lounges'
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10.
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Alice
Wilson
Christchurch, New Zealand
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Dolphin Lounge
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11.
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Wattie
Mason
Edinburgh
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Dolphin Lounge
Caledonian Bar |
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12.
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Alistair Rankine
Australia
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The Crown
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Recollections
1.
Eric Gold
East End, London |
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Thank you to Eric Gold who wrote
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Leith
Pubs - Long since gone
"It's sad
to think that these pubs all made a living at
one time. It's a sign of the times and
people's changing social habits,
I guess."
Eric Gold: East
London: October, 2008.
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Recollections
2.
Frank Ferri
Newhaven, Edinburgh |
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Thank you to Frank Ferri who wrote:
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Jug Bars
"I
just
had another memory flash - 'JUG BARS',
as opposed to Milk Bars; that's another
topic.
Right up until at least the mid-1960s,
most pubs, in Leith anyway,
had a 'JUG BAR'. This
usual was a small annex off the pub, usually
situated at the entrance, the dimensions being about 6
feet 6 X 12 feet in size, with a small serving hatch
inside, linked to the bar for discretion." |
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The Ladies
"In
days gone by, when women did not openly drink, or before it was acceptable
for women to go in to bars, which were by and large was the domain of men
only, this was a facility, where generally,
elderly ladies could sit and have a quiet drink.
Or in days of old, the wife or
old granny would go in, armed with a jug/picture, which was filled with
ale, covered with a tea towel and carried back to the house for Dad or
Grandpa to consume with his meal after a hard days work at the shipyards
or whatever." |
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Empty Beer Bottles
"As
kids, this is where we would take empty beer bottles to redeem the penny
or two penny returnable charge. Sometimes you had to wander into a number
of Jug Bars armed with an armful of bottles, before you got all the
redeemable money, as each bar tender told you:
"Sorry son, we don’t sell that brand of
beer here.” So
we had move on and on until we got rid of them.
Often we were chased away by the bar staff.
It was a similar scenario with
lemonade bottles or jam jars.
Give a bundle of lemonade bottles
to a kid to redeem the refund now and they would turn up their noses.
This is how WE earned some additional pocket money." |
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Frank Ferri, Newhaven,
Edinburgh: October 17, 2008.
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Recollections
3.
Bill Cunningham
Leith, Edinburgh |
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Thank you to Bill
Cunningham who wrote:
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Joug Bars
"I note that Frank Ferri (in
Recollections 2 above) refers to Jug bars, but I am sure that in Scotland
this would have been ‘Joug Bars’.
Jug would have been thought 'awfy
posh'!.
In England they used the
term The Snug."
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Bill Cunningham, Leith, Edinburgh: October
26, 2008 |
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Recollections
4.
Ian M Malcolm
St Andrews, Fife, Scotland |
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Thank you to Ian M Malcolm for telling me of some of
his experiences in and around Edinburgh while he was studying at
Leith
Nautical College in 1947-48.
Ian wrote: |
"The
closing time of the pubs was
half-an-hour later in either Edinburgh or Leith.
As the Pilrig Bar had a counter which stretched between
both towns, patrons moved from one side to the other when the
first closing bell was rung.
(Was
this before the amalgamation of Edinburgh and Leith in 1920?
- Peter Stubbs)
All pubs in Scotland were
closed on Sundays, but as hotels were permitted to serve drinks to
travellers, there was a considerable itinerant population.
I heard of a merchant seaman obtaining a drink in
Leith by stating that he was en route to
Istanbul!"
Ian M Malcolm: St Andrews,
Fife, Scotland: January 24, 2010
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Recollections
5.
Sheila Fraser (nee
Black)
Bathgate, West Lothian,
Scotland |
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Thank you to Sheila Fraser for posting this message in
the EdinPhoto guestbook.
Sheila wrote: |
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"I have been
given my grandmother's
diaries from 1970 to 1974 when she died.
Every Thursday,
there is an entry
'S/B', which I
think might be a pub.
It would have been within
walking distance of 172
Great Junction Street.
My grandmother
went there for lunch.
There are entries:
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'S/B very quite. Home at 1.45'
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S/B very enjoyable.
If
you want to know what the weather was like
on a particular day at the time,
I can tell you. She comments on
the weather every day,
and sometimes twice a day."
Sheila Fraser, Bathgate, West
Lothian, Scotland: May 9, 2010
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What was
S/B?
If you have any idea what 'S/B might have been,
please email me, then I'll pass on your message to Sheila.
Thank you.
Peter Stubbs: May 11, 2010 |
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Reply
1. to
Recollections
5.
Neil Lawrence
Fountainbridge, Edinburgh |
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Thank you to Neil Lawrence who
wrote: |
"Here
are a few pubs from around that era and area that might fit the
bill.
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24 Portland Place |
Now: The Sports
Bar |
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Strathies Bar |
17 Portland
Place |
Now: Rumba |
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Swanney Bar |
32 North Junction
St |
Now: Aska's
Bar |
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Sherry's Bar |
269 Great Junction
St |
Was Dakota, now
closed |
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Skivvy's Bar |
15 Duke Street |
Now derelict, next
to Marksman |
What
do you think? A few are very close.
Neil
Lawrence, Fountainbridge, Edinburgh: May 11, 2010
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Reply
2. to
Recollections
5.
Frank Ferri
Newhaven, Edinburgh |
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Thank you to Frank Ferri who
wrote: |
"I
doubt very much if 'S/B'
was a pub.
In the
1970s, there were 6 pubs in
Junction St, not including North
Junction St which has two,
but none was sophisticated enough to sell food.
No.
172 Great Junction St, where Sheila's
grandmother lived, is the old Co-Op tenement building
opposite Bangor Rd. The nearest
pubs to there would have been:
- The
Hawthorn, between Bangor Rd
and Bowling Green St.
-
Cousin's between Bowling Green
St and Ballantyne Rd.
- Junction
Bridge (Berry's) on the
corner of Ferry Rd.
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"However,
at 127 Junction St, next to the
church, opposite Crabbie's old building, there
is a wee cafe - 'Up the
Junction',. It has been there
for a long time.
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Frank Ferri, Newhaven, Edinburgh:
May 12, 2010 |
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Reply
3. to
Recollections
5.
John Stewart
Livingston, West Lothian,
Scotland |
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Thank you to John Stewart for
coming up with what appear to me to be very plausible suggestions. |
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John wrote:
What was
S/B?
"Somehow,
I don't think the lady in her diary was referring to bars.
S/B suggests to me two places:
1.
Store Boardroom:
on the corner of Great Junction Street and Cables Wynd, at the
traffic lights.
This
was the venue for wedding receptions, etc. until it was demolished
and replaced with Telectra House. This, itself, has been
replaced.
2.
The Sally
(Salvation Army) / Bangour Road.
It ran lunch clubs, once a week on Thursdays.
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John added:
"My
mother is now aged 102.
She attended the Salvation Army lunch club at that time. She
is still around. If I knew the deceased lady's name
I could ask my mother if she knew her." |
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John Stewart, Livingston, West
Lothian, Scotland: 3 emails, all May 11, 2010 |
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Reply
4. to
Recollections
5.
John Stewart
Livingston, West Lothian,
Scotland |
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John Stewart, who sent 'Reply 3'
above, runs the Old Leither web
site.
He added a question about
'S/B' to that site. |
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John wrote:
State Bingo
"I
received this reply from Moira in my guestbook:
''Might I
suggest that it was
State Bingo.
They had a pensioners' club,
and they had an early session and lunch,
one day a week.
The other place
that it could have been is
Swanfield.
At the top gate, down the wee
lane, turn right
and there was a wee building.
That was the
lunch club. My grandad went
there up until he died.'
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John Stewart, Livingston, West
Lothian, Scotland: May 12, 2010 |
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Recollections
6.
Margaret Clarke |
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Margaret Clarke wrote: |
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"I wonder if anyone can supply the name
of the pub below the Queen's Hotel at the foot of
Leith Walk, as shown in photos from the
late-1800s to early-1900s.
In any photos that
I have looked at, there is always a tram passing just in
front, or the photograph is just too blurry."
Margaret Clarke: August 22,
2010
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Reply to
Margaret?
If you know the answer to Margaret's question,
please email me, then I'll pass on your message to
her. Thank
you.
Peter Stubbs: May 11, 2010
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Recollections
7.
Tom McLuskey
Canada |
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Tom McLuskey
wrote: |
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"I was reading and looking with
great interest at the recollections of old
Leith Pubs and noticed that four of the most well known pubs,
not only in Leith but around the world,
were not mentioned. They are:
The Kings Wark
"The Kings
Wark was also known
world-wide as
The Jungle. It was right on the
Leith Waterfront, a place for sailors of
all nationalities to go and enjoy themselves.
It was owned
and run by Tammy Glasgow who was always good for a sub when we were
waiting on a ship. He was always
paid back when we returned from a trip, sometimes months later but
always he was paid back."
Billy's Bar
"Billy's Bar
also right on the waterfront. It was
a good bar and was next door to the
Merchant Navy Union Hall.
The Tower Bar
The Tower Bar was
next to what used to be the Merchant Navy Hostel.
Again, it was right on the Leith Waterfront
Fairlies of Leith
Fairlies of Leith was
just across the old bridge from The Jungle
Bar. It had a lounge that was second
to none. With many of my friends, I
spent many enjoyable evenings there. It
was close to the Merchant Navy Offices
1940s
These pubs were all active in the
1940s, 1950s, 1960s and right into the
1970s. I hope they brings back
pleasant memories to all who frequented them especially to old
seafarers
Tom McLuskey, Canada: March
19, 2011 |
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Tom:
More
Pubs
Thanks for your comments
about the pubs above. I'm happy to include your comments on
this page. However, I think the reason why these pubs had
not been mentioned previously on this page is because the scope of
this page was originally 'Leith Pubs. Long Gone''
Some of the pubs that you mention are not 'Long Gone'.
They are still in business - though they may be better known now
for their restaurant than for their bar.
Peter Stubbs: May 19, 2010 |
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Recollections
8.
Alistair Rankine
Australia |
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Thank you to Alistair Rankine for
posting a message in the EdinPhoto guestbook.
Alistair wrote: |
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"I wonder if anyone remembers the
'Crown Bar' and 'Dolphin Lounge' near the foot of Leith Walk.
I managed this pub when it was owned by Willie Hare from 1972 to
1974 when I emigrated to Australia
It was a great pub then. The
customers were all really friendly, especially the crowd who used to
come in to the lounge bar at opening time, 5pm. They all had
their special likes.
I remember some of my staff Madge,
Margaret, Marie and Liz. I can't remember their last
names.
Guinness at 20p a pint. Those were
the days!"
Alistair Rankine, Australia:
Message posted on EdinPhoto web site: July 7, 2011 |
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Recollections
9.
Frank Ferri
Newhaven, Edinburgh |
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Thank you to Frank Ferri for sending a reply to
Alistair Rankine's message in 'Recollections
8' above.
Frank wrote: |
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"The Crown (and
its Dolphin Lounge) was a great place, one
of the very few in Leith in the 1970s.
It had a nice, classy wee lounge where you
could take your wife to.
I knew the
Dolphin owners
many years ago. They moved
to the foot of Easter Road to the
Persevere, which has a nice,
large, tasteful-decorated
dining room."
Betty's
"The other
place similar to the Dolphin was Berry's,
on the corner of Ferry Road and Great
Junction Street. It had soft,
quite, non-intrusive
background music, with free wee snacks on bar."
'Whispery
Lounges'
"I used to
call these 'whispery
lounges'. No-one raised their voices.
There was nice, quiet conversation.
Where do you find that now apart from
high class hotels?"
Frank Ferri, Newhaven, Edinburgh:
July 7, 2011 |
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Recollections
10.
Alice Wilson (nee
Ward)
Christchurch, New
Zealand
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Alice Wilson
replied to Alistairr Rankine:
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"I don't know the Dolphin Lounge
personally as I was to young, but I
remember my parents getting all dolled up on a Saturday
night for their night out. That was in the
late-1950s and early-1960s. Thanks
for reminding me of that "
Alice Wilson (nee Ward), Christchurch, New Zealand:
Message posted in EdinPhoto guest book, July 7, 2011 |
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Recollections
11.
Wattie Mason
Edinburgh
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Wattie Mason also replied to the message from Alistair
Rankine.
Wattie wrote:
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"Sad to say,
the Dolphin Lounge and Crown Bar is no longer.
It is now Papa John's Pizza
Takeaway."
"The
Caledonian Bar has also become a pizza bar
- Dominoe Pizza Place."
Wattie Mason, Message posted in EdinPhoto guest
book, July 8, 2011 |
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Recollections
12.
Alistair Rankine
Australia |
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Thank you to Alister Rankine for replying to Frank
Ferri's comments (9 above). Alistair wrote:
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"Frank is correct. Prior to
the time when it was bought by Mr Hare, the owners of
'The Crown'
opened a brand new pub, 'The Persevere',
at the foot of Easter Road.
On the first night,
we were worried 'The Persevere' would take
all their customers from 'The Crown'.
When 'The
Crown' opened at 5pm, not one customer
came in. Then, around 5.30, they
started to drift into 'The Crown'
with the comment 'The new place is very
nice but we like our own haunt.'
So The Crown did very well for the
two years I was there."
Alastair Rankine, Australia: July 8, 2011 |
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