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Recollections

Craigmillar and Niddrie

1940s - 1950s

1.

Irene ATKINS
Ashford, Kent, England

Old Women and Old Men

A Safe Place

German Plane

More German Planes

'The White Hoose'

2.

Cath TUFF
Warwickshire, England

The White House

3.

David THOMSON
Broughton, England

Craigmillar's Decline

Wauchope Estate

4.

Marion DEIGHAN
Edinburgh

My First TV

5.

John CLARK
Canada

Craigmillar Castle Gardens

6.

David BROWN
Craigmillar, Edinburgh

Schools and Housing

7.

Rod FRASER
Australia

Wauchope Estate

8.

Ralph MALTMAN
Canada

Home, School, Work

Neighbours

Jam Pieces

Shopping

Friends

9.

John CLARK
Canada

Growing up in Craigmillar

Family

 

Recollections

1.

Irene Atkins

Ashford, Kent, England

Thank you to Bryan Gourlay, Biggar, Lanarkshire, Scotland,  for sending me these memories of Craigmillar in the early 1940s, written by his aunt, Irene Atkins.

Thank you also to Irene, who wrote:

Old Women and Old Men

"The Craigmillar I grew up in, in the early 1940s, is not the place it has become today. It was a world of women and old men, most of the young men having volunteered or been called up to fight for king and country.

The young women went to work to help boost the pittance they received from whichever service their husbands fought with. The old women stayed at home to look after the children of their sons and daughters.

The old men sat on the various benches around the area and regaled us children with tales of their daring do in ' the last one ' in such places as Paschendale, Cambrai and Vimy Ridge, whilst their wives used their meager sugar rations to provide us with such delights as toffee apples and barley twists."

A Safe Place

"Craigmillar was as safe a place as any then. We children played anywhere and everywhere without a care. I do not ever recall a burglary, break-in, child abduction or murder in my day.

The shops neither used shutters or grills when they closed after the day's business, and we only had one policeman called Bobby Munroe.

German plane

"However, exciting things did happen. Such as the German plane that crashed into the derelict grounds of Lady Wauchope's estate.

The other children and I saw the remains of the plane being loaded on to two flat-bed lorries. The very young German airman, who was the only survivor of the crash, was dragged from his hiding place in the woods and frog marched, with hands tied behind his back, covered in dirt and blood, to the police box at the bottom of the road.

I was unable to understand at that time why people jeered and spat on him. I must confess I felt sorry for the poor young man who must have been terrified out of his wits.

I also remember being taken to the gates of Portobello cemetery (Milton Road) to see the corteges of his dead companions pass through, where they might still lie today."

More German Planes

"I remember hanging out of the window with my mother watching a dog-fight in the sky above, with the lights out of course. Also, being wrapped in a huge pink quilt and going to the air raid shelter when the siren sounded, coming back hours later to find the cat had eaten our supper of fish and chips (mother nearly killed it).

I remember going with my mother to New Craighall to see the skeletal remains of the bombed-out houses where a German airman jettisoned his load over the village, having missed his target of Leith docks.

Irene Atkins, Ashford, Kent, England, formerly Wauchope, Craigmillar and Burdiehouse

with acknowledgement to Brian Gourlay, Biggar, Lanarkshire, Scotland, April 9, 2006

 

Recollections

2.

Cath Tuff

Warwickshire, England

Thank you to Cath Tuff, Warwickshire, England, who used to live at Craigmillar, for sending her memories.

Cath wrote:

The White House

   The Whitehouse Public House, Craigmillar ©

"My husband lived in Craigmillar from 1937.  He has great memories of the White Hoose as a boy.  He watched the fights from the window in the Loan (Craigmillar Castel) and  had his first pint of heavy there.

We moved to Niddrie Mill and had a few good laughs and close shaves there.

We now live in England and my husband can't get about, but we still talk about Craigmillar, and tell our grandsons about the White Hoose, and soon our great grandchildren will know all about it."

Cath Tuff, Warwickshire, England:  December 12, 2006

 

Recollections

3.

David Thomson

Broughton, Edinburgh

Thank you to David Thomson for sending his memories of Craigmillar.

David wrote:

Craigmillar's Decline

"I was born in the Craigmillar area and regretfully have seen the decline in the quality of life in the area.

There used to be full employment with 7 Breweries, Coal Pits. Steele's Sanitaryware manufacturing, etc. 

 The cows were brought down from the Castle Farm to be milked and folk won awards for Best Garden etc.  I delivered milk and never had any milk stolen from my barrow!  Folk left the money or token outside their door and it was never stolen. 

I have seen Greendykes being built, demolished, built again and now being demolished again, and I'm not even pensionable age! There's more decent folk in Craigmillar but its the age-old adage of the few bad apples ruin the box."

Wauchope Estate

"I have a book on General Wauchope and used to play in the Wauchope estate - a wonderful place,  The old cemetery is where General Wauchope brought a drummer or bugle boy who had been badly injured, back home from South Africa to have a decent place to die.

When the lad died, he buried him in the family graveyard at Niddrie.  Fascinating the history of a wee place in Edinburgh which has a vast wealth in history of industry and village life.  General Wauchope has a statue which stands at the junction of Market Street/Mound."

David Thomson, Broughton, Edinburgh:  February 15, 2007

 

Recollections

4.

Marion Deighan

Edinburgh

Thank you to Mary Deighan who wrote:

My First TV

"When I first got a TV in the late 1950s the screens were small and the gimmick was to buy an enlarger like a magnifying glass.

A guy came to the door.  He was well dressed and was not from the Edinburgh area.  In my opinion he was a conman, as I can spot a conman miles away.

He said: 'You can rent this magnifier for 2 shillings a week. I'll send one of my agents next week to pick up the payments.

When he saw and heard my husband and found out who my sons were, he got a bit nervous and I never saw him or his so-called agent ever again.

The glass screen was great as it magnified my wee TV to a 32 inch screen without being a blur.  It was one of the best bargains I had in Craigmillar.

I also used knitting needles to get a good picture until I got an aerial mounted on the roof."

Marion Deighan, Edinburgh:  March 29, 2007

Marion is the aunt of Eric Gold who has sent many recollections to the EdinPhoto web site.  Marion used to live in Arthur Street, Dumbiedykes then in Harewood Road, Craigmillar

 

Recollections

5.

John Clark

Canada

Thank you to John Clark who wrote:

Craigmillar Castle Gardens

"My Auntie Lizzie lived in Craigmillar Castle Gardens. People reading this in Hollywood would probably think, 'Wow, I simply must buy a house there.'

Sorry Maam, it wasn't that fancy, but it sure was a lot of fun. We would play football in the park next to the brewery,  It's still there.

We would go to free movies in the nissen huts from the war, and watch great movies for free.  It was freezing cold, but who cared if you were watching a free movie."

John Clark, Canada:  April 1, 2007

 

Recollections

6.

David Brown

Craigmillar, Edinburgh

Thank you to David Brown who wrote:

Schools and Housing

"I go back to Craigmillar 1938, when it was a great place to live.

Peffermill School was being built. We had to go to Prestonfield and the tin school, until it was ready.

People were poor but honest, with large families.  All you hear now is 'deprived area'. 

I've lived in the area for fifty years, ,and own my own home.  I'm very comfortably off because I worked for it."

David Brown, Craigmillar, Edinburgh:  August 12, 2008

 

Recollections

7.

Rod Fraser

Australia

Thank you to Rod Fraser who wrote:

Wauchope Estate

"I used to live in Wauchope Terrace in Craigmillar, back in the 1950s.  I used to play in the old Wauchope Estate grounds then and have many great memories of the time.

 I have a rough idea of where the paths went and what was there.  I was wondering if you have any maps of the layout of the old estate before the housing development?"

Rod Fraser, Australia:  August 7, 2008

Reply

For old maps of the area, I recommend contacting the Map Library of the National Library of Scotland.

Here is their email address.

Peter Stubbs:  August 7, 2008

 

Recollections

8.

Ralph Maltman

Canada

Thank you to Ralph Maltman who wrote:

Home, School, Work

"I grew up in Craigmillar from around 1938 or '39, and finally left to go to Canada in 1957

We lived at 21 Craigmillar Castle Terrace terrace. I attended Peffermill School, then moved on to Niddrie Marischal.  Later, I worked in the pits at Loanhead."

Neighbours

"I recall many happy memories living in Craigmillar and I can't recall any bad times.  Our parents used to go around the stair, either borrowing money for the gas meter or asking for a drop of milk or sugar."

Jam Pieces

"I remember having 'pieces' thrown out the window.  They they were usually jam only, not butter and jam. We never got butter, that was usually only for our dad.  But we thought nothing of that.  That's just the way it was."

Shopping

"We used to shop at the local shops  for our messages. The famous one I recall was Mrs Flett's on the main road in CraigmillarI think her name was Jean and her husband was Charlie."

Friends

"What great memories of those times, meeting all our friends on the corner of the Terrace and the Grove

the Andersons

the Wilsons

-  the Moyes

-  the Gunns

-  the Norrises.

So many memories.  There was nothing wrong with Craigmillar when we were growing up.  What happened?"

Ralph Maltman, Canada:  October 11, 2008

 

Recollections

9.

John Clark

Canada

Thank you to John Clark who wrote:

Growing up in Craigmillar

"I lived in and visited Craigmillar for long periods of time in the late 1940s, to stay with my cousins. Craigmillar was a great place to grow up and to play as a kid.

Oh yes, the young people were tough.  They had to be.  But they were honest and reliable in the majority."

Norris Family

"My cousins were:

-  Jim Norris

George Norris

Billy Norris.

Unfortunately Billy was killed in a terrible accident with a rocket flare gun that he and some friends had acquired and were fooling around with.

George died a few years ago of heart troubles, but I like to believe that Jim is still around and with us."

QUESTION

"Do you know Jim?  If so, please tell him I am asking for him.

Anyway, long live Craigmillar, it gave me many, many happy years in my young days."

Auntie Lizzie

"My Auntie Lizzie had a huge family, from two different husbands.  They were, starting at the eldest, and I hope I get this right:

-  Davey Bullock

-  Jessie Bullock

-  Nettie Bullock

-  Anna Bullock

-  Isabell Bullock

-  Stewart Norris

-  Billy Norris

-  Jim Norris

-  Mary Norris

-  George Norris

-  Marjorie Norris.

She also had one child who died as a baby.

I was in the age group between Billy and Jim. So you can imagine how entertaining life was at my Auntie Lizzie's place, and why I love Craigmillar so much.  Oh, happy days."

Ralph Maltman, Canada:  October 13+15, 2008

 

Edinburgh and Leith map, 1940 -  Craigmillar and Niddrie section, with key to housing areas ©

Notes and Maps showing areas
of Craigmillar and Niddrie

 

 

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Photographs and Other Images  -  These include portraits of photographers  -  photographic outings -  Princes Street views  -  Newhaven Fishwives  -  etc.  Early Photography in Edinburgh  -  Talbot, Brewster, Hill & Adamson, Early Professional Photographers in Princes Street, etc.  Professional Photographers in Edinburgh  -  1840 to 1940  -  Their names, dates of business and studio addresses.  The Photographic Society of Scotland  -  1856 to 1873  -  Lectures, Exhibitions, Outings, etc.  The History of Edinburgh Photographic Society  -  1861 to date  -  Lectures, Exhibitions, Outings, Poems, etc.  EPS Publications - EPS Handwritten Records  -  Photographic Journals  -  Trade Directories  -  Books  -  etc.  Thanks to all who have encouraged and supported me in creating the EdinPhoto web site  -  including descendants of photogrpahers  -  researchers  -  providers of photographs and other material  Background notes on the research thal led up to the creation of this site  -   together with lists of new material added to the site since its launch.  Brief comments on how this site might be used  -  Just browsing?  -  Seeking specific information?  Please add your questions, suggestions or other comments to the Guest Book.  Links to other web sites  -  Photographic Societies  -  Photographic History  -  Family History  -  etc.  Click here to find the link to the Edinburgh Photogrpahic Society web site.  Details of who owns the copyright of photographs and other mateiral on this web site.

A selection of my photographs, many from Edinburgh throughout the year.   Also photos from Scotland, London, Iceland, Italy, Hong Kong and elsewhere    Many old maps of Edinburgh (Old Town, New Town, while City), Leith and Newhaven.  Includes several old transport maps and a comparison of old maps with recent aerial photos.   Old engravings, mailly of Edinburgh scenes.  Some from the 1820s, some from the 1890s,  some others - includes many hand-coloured examples from the 1820s.   News from Edinburgh today  -  Events, Collections, Buildings and Gardens, Transport   This site includes     1. Post card portraits taken in studios in Edinburgh:    2. Post card views either takeen/published by Ediburgh photographers or views of Edinburgh, or both.y Edinburgh    Views of Edinburgh, grouped into three sections:     1. Street views:    2. Buildings:    3. Around Edinburgh   Views of transport around Edinburgh  -  Horse drawn trams and buses, cable cars, electric trams, buses and a few railway photos.  Also several maps of Edinburgh's bus and tram routes.   Summary of the updates added to this site each month since the site was launched   Frequently Asked Questions

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