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Question
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"Abraham Lincoln"
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Philip Morrow wrote:
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"I have a print of Abraham
Lincoln showing him quarter-facing left and clean shaven. In small print
under the oval print is: 'Published
and Copyright 1894, by A. W. Elson & Co. Boston'."
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Reproduced with acknowledgement to Philip Morrow
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"Can you tell me more about
this particular print and perhaps its approximate value? It is in a
broad wooden frame (oak, I believe) with a cardboard backing. The
frame measures 31"W x 37"H and the oval is about 15"W x 18"H.
It had belonged to my
grandparents -- and probably their parents. There is a little moisture
staining into the bottom border, but not onto the oval itself. This is
a large print and seems to be remarkably well-preserved. (An example
of 'carbon printing'?)
Thanks for any help you can
provide."
Philip Morrow: February 2004 |
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Another Lincoln Photo
Here is a message received in May 2005 about another
Lincoln photo:
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"In our family we have a large carbon
print of Abe Lincoln sitting by the fire.
It is called Boyhood of Lincoln. This
print was made by AW Elson & Co. Boston.
It is in an old large oak frame. On
the back there is a number A5.
We know that the original of this
picture was painted by Eastman Johnson and hangs in a museum in
Michigan.
We are interested in any information
about this print, when it was made, how many are there, the value,
etc. Anything would be helpful.
Thank you much for your help."
Farrah, May 2005: North
Dakota, USA. |
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3rd Lincoln Photo
Here is a message received in
March 2006. Angela Hall wrote:
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"I have an identical print and was
wondering if anyone responded to you regarding the value.
Mine is in a fairly fancy Victorian
frame so I am only looking for some help on the print itself. Any
help you can give is greatly appreciated. Thanks!"
Angela Hall: March 15, 2006 |
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4th Lincoln Photo
Here is a message received in
May 2007. Cindy Farmer wrote:
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" I have the same photo that Mr. Phil
Morrow was describing. I also have had it in my family as long
as I can remember.
I was wondering what the value of this
photo would be, and how to care for it.
Any information you could share with me,
including who the artist was,
would be great.
My mother is very ill and she asked me at
one time to find out what I could about it. I would love to be able
to tell her something before she passes."
Cindy Farmer: May 2, 2007
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5th
Lincoln Photo
Gary, Colorado, USA wrote
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" I also have the exact Abe Lincoln
portrait with the same clean shaven Lincoln along with the exact
border you have shown, but not the same frame.
I am
wondering if you have any more information on this as I track A W
Elson & Co from Boston, Mass."
Gary, Colorado, USA: February 4, 2008 |
Sorry Gary, I still don't have any answers - just
more people finding the same picture!
Peter Stubbs: February 4, 2008 |
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Other
Presidents
Here is a message I received in response to the photo
above:
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"I have the same print as the one
pictured in your first question from Philip Morrow. In fact the frame
appears to be identical. I purchased mine along with prints of Jefferson,
Washington, Franklin and others about 35 years ago in Auburn, New York."
James F Plugh, 12 January 2005
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If you feel
that you can help to answer any of the questions above, or any other
questions on this page, please
e-mail me so that I can pass
on your answer to the owners of the photo.
Thank you - Peter Stubbs |
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Question
2
"Painting by
John White Alexander"
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Sarah Imbruglia wrote:
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"I am writing in concern of a
picture I purchased at a yard sale. The picture is a beautiful portrait
of a person the name on the bottom says John Alexander 91'. A.W. Elson &
Company Boston Carbon Photographs.
If you could please help me
find out more information about this portrait please contact me. If not
please point me into the right direction.
Thank you for your time."
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From Sarah Imbruglia
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August 2001 |
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Comment
There was a John White
Alexander. I don't know whether this was the same person or not.
He was born in Allegheny,
Pennsylvania on 7 Oct 1856 and died in New York, 1915. He was a
society portrait painter, painting mainly women, 1887-91.
Some of his paintings are
included in a catalogue of a Memorial Exhibition in 1941, published by the
Carnegie Institute, Pittsburgh.
Peter Stubbs - August 2001
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Question
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"Painting by John White Alexander"
(again)
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Here is another query that I have
received about a carbon photograph by A W Elson of a painting by John White
Alexander. Tim Rodgers of Salt Lake City writes:
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"I was wondering if I could get some/any info. on a
piece I have at home. It is a photo of a painting by John White
Alexander titled Isabella and the Pot of Basil. Below the photo, with in the
frame work is a stamp on the matting. It says "A.W. Elson & Company Carbon
Photographs".
I believe my Mother got the picture from an old school
in Illinois in the 1950s. The picture itself is about 16 inches wide
by 25 inches tall. The whole thing including the frame is about 2 feet by
3.5 feet.
I found the poem that the actual painting is about, and
later on I saw a drink tray at a flea market with the Isabella picture in
the middle of it. On the drink tray picture it appeared as if the pot was a
fish bowl and Isabella was tapping on the side of the glass playing with a
fish inside.
Any further information would be greatly appreciated.
Of course, I'd love to find out the value if this photo but I doubt I would
ever sell it."
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Tim Rodgers, Salt Lake City, Utah - February 2005
If you can help to answer
the question above, please
e-mail me.
Thank you. - Peter Stubbs
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Tim also gave
details of the poem:
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"It's all about Isabella and how she was in love with some guy that her
brother didn't approve of. The brother thought she should marry a
Nobel man. So the brother killed Isabella's boy friend. Isabella
found out about it and later found where the body was.
I
don't know if she did or her servants did but somehow they cut the
boyfriend's head off. Isabella put the head in a pot and planted some
basil on top. There she mourned for her lost love.
Apparently the Basil pot with the head in it flourished noticeably more than
the rest of the pots of basil nearby. So the evil brother took the pot with
the head in it to find out why. The poem ends with poor Isabella now
searching for the lost pot with the head in it."
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Tim Rodgers, Salt Lake City, Utah - February 2005 |
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Question
4
"Boyhood of Raleigh"
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W Foster wrote:
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"I have a carbon print with Boyhood of Raleigh
written on the back of the matting with A. W. Elson & Co. Boston Mass embossed
in the mat.
Do you know how old this is?
Thanks".
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wfoster2@triad.rr.com -
September 2003 |
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Comment
'The Boyhood of Raleigh'
was painted in oil on canvas by John Millais in 1869-70. It is is in the Tate
Gallery, London.
I don't know when the carbon print was produced by AW Elson,
but I believe that the company published many carbon prints in the 1890s and
early 1900s
Peter Stubbs - September
2003
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Question
5
"Cornwallis Surrender"
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Kip Legaard wrote:
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"Hello,
I
have this large portrait and I was wondering what its value is and what
exactly this picture is of?"
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Reproduced with acknowledgement to Kip Legaard
From
Kip Legaard
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If you can help to answer
the question above, please
e-mail me.
Thank you. - Peter Stubbs
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Update
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"From what I found out the picture is a carbon
print of Cornwallis Surrender"
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Kip Legaard -
February 2004 |
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Question
6
Aerial View of
Dartmouth College |
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I have received two messages about this picture:
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Patricia Corliss wrote:
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"I am hoping you can help me.
I have an
original print signed by Richard
Rummels. it is an aerial view of Dartmouth College.
It also has A.W Elson & Co Boston on the right hand corner and in the
middle, below the picture it has 1906 WT Littig and Company. It is
framed, looks pretty old, and has water rolled glass, quite beautiful and
is matted in great shape.
Well i guess if you can help
me figure out the worth, how many copies were made and how Littig came
into play with this and also A.W. Elson, and also where i can find info
on the net to get some more history on where to sell this piece.
I do know
Rummels is in the
museum.. So any info on this piece would be greatly appreciated."
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Patricis Corliss
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Bonnie wrote:
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"I
have an original print signed by Richard Rummels. I think that it is
an aerial view of Dartmouth College.
Printed on the right hand corner below picture
is: Photogravure by A. W. Elson & Co. Boston with Richard Rummels
signature.
Printed in the middle under the picture is:
Copyright, 1908, by W.T. Littig & Co. New York.
Also has a small print of a shed like building
with trees and a keg or barrel on the building ledge.
It is a 31" X 19" print with glass and 3"
finished wood frame. Very nice picture of which we get many compliments
and inquiries.
I would appreciate any information you could
give me regarding the picture and its worth."
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Bonnie: January 7, 2006 |
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Blair Lockwood wrote:
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"I also have a print of Dartmouth that I
recently inherited. My grandfather was a Dartmouth grad about 100 years
ago so this sounds like the same print as described above.
Perhaps it was sold/given to Dartmouth grads
during that time. I am interested in either giving it to Dartmouth or
selling it if I can find a buyer but also don't have any idea of its
value."
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Blair Lockwood, Baton Rouge, Louisiana, USA: February 10, 2007
Blair Lockwood subsequently wrote
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"I have just contacted Dartmouth to see if
they were interested in the picture as a gift. They have a few copies of
the picture, so they were not.
I think it was distributed widely. I
will hang on to my copy for now, but I was quite interested in finding out
that others had copies and were also interested in its history."
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Blair Lockwood, Baton Rouge, Louisiana, USA: February 13, 2007 |
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If you can provide any more information about this photograph, please
e-mail me.
Thank you. - Peter Stubbs
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Question
7
"Indian"
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Message from the EdinPhoto
GuestBook:
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"I have a print that is black &
white it is approx 2 ft. by 2ft. there is no artist that signed on the
print except the publisher which is A.W Elson & Co Boston.
It is a
portrait of an male Indian appears to be from the southern states do to
the back ground. The time must have been before 1913 - found a
Boston
newspaper behind the print.
Wish to know the artist, the tribe of which
this Indian is from and state, and the value of this print?"
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From GuestBook [anon]
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Comment
You
could have a look at the
Appalachian Arts web site.
(Despite its opening screen, it does not
appear to need a password!)
This site refers to the
Wanamaker Collection
of Indian photographs at Indiana
University, and to photogravure prints of Indians by Elson
of Boston, some published 1913 and others in 1925.
Peter Stubbs - February
2003
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Question
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"Indian and the Lily" |
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Message from Victoria Ellis:
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"I have a beautiful picture from the Wanamaker Collection. The
outer frame is wooden, 2 inches and 27 by 29 inches.
The subject is an Indian. He appears to be from the South due to the
vegetations around him. The trees have moss hanging off the branches
touching the lagoon that surrounds the back drop. He is Kneeling down to the
lagoon and with his right hand gripping the vines from the trees so he may
not fall into the water as he picks a fresh flowering water Lilly from the
water line. It's obvious he's on the journal home from a hunt.
A large white feathery fowl
(maybe a crane, it has long legs and a very long neck) is draped over his
back. He is bare chest with a wide, thick belt around his waist and thigh
high Moccasins that depict his tribe's colors, drawings symbolisms of their
way of life.
Unfortunately when the picture
was shipped the glass shatter scratching the surface in two places not deep
but the picture was in mint condition before that. It must have been the
originally glass. In fact, the Boston Newspaper was behind the frame. I
had new glass put in and kept the originally frame.
This portray moves me in many
ways, so I have many questions:
1. Indian from what tribe ?
2. What area of the south?
3. Date?
4. Who was the photographer and the passion
for his work?
5. Is A. W. Elson and Boston Co. still intact?
6. Where do you go for an appraisal on this
piece?
I'm insuring all my personal items
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Victoria Ellis - Kodiak, Alaska, USA -
August 2005 |
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You could have a look at the
Appalachian Arts web site. (Despite its opening screen, it does not
appear to need a password!)
This site refers to the Wanamaker Collection of Indian photographs at Indiana University,
and to photogravure prints of Indians by Elson of Boston, some published
1913 and others in 1925.
I have never e-mailed this web site, but
if you were to do so, they might be able to answer some of your questions.
Peter Stubbs - August 2005
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"Indian and the Lily"
2nd
copy
I have received a further e-mail (from
Rick Garrett, address not known, October 2005) telling me that he also
has an Indian photo. He is trying to discover more about this photo.
He describes it as:
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"an Indian in a swamp, with a goose( I think)
on his back. He seems to be picking a pond lily." |
Rick Garrett - October 2005 |
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"Indian and the Lily"
3rd
copy
This appears to be another copy the photograph referred to above. Dave
Chaszewski, from northern Manitoba, Canada, who sent the photo below, tells
me that it is titled: 'Indian
and the Lily'.

©
Reproduced with acknowledgement
to Dave Chaszewski, northern Manitoba, Canada
Detail from the bottom of the frame above
showing A W Elson's logo

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Reproduced with acknowledgement
to Dave Chaszewski, northern Manitoba, Canada
Dave Chaszewski: July 21 + 22, 2006 |
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Dave Chaszewski wrote again in August 2006 telling me:
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Value of the Picture?
"I tried to contact Victoria Ellis of
Kodiak, Alaska, USA concerning this picture, but have not had any
luck.
I think now it is more important to
contact someone on the value of this print for I have been offered
Can$1000.00 without any questions asked from a lady at a garage sale
that has an antique store
I did not accept the money, thinking that
it might be worth more. Was I stupid or should I take whatever I
can for it?
I did
not have it for sale. I just wanted to ask her what it might be
worth. Any help with information on possibly selling it would be
appreciated
Thanx,
Dave
Dave Chaszewski, northern Manitoba, Canada:
August 14, 2006 |
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"Indian and the Lily"
4th
copy
Carolyn Fisher from Minnesota e-mailed me in March 2007 to tell me
that she also has a copy of 'Indian and the Lilly'.
Carolyn wrote:
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"We just inherited this print.
Do you have any ideas on the value or know
where we can get a current value?
Any more information on it would be great!!"
Carolyn Fisher, Duluth, Minnesota: March 16, 2007
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Question
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"Paintings by Kever"
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Here is a query that I
received by e-mail:
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"I have a print by the artist
J S H Kever, published by AW Elson & Co of Boston. I would like to learn
more about dates, people etc. and also the value if any."
masloan@telus.net
- January 2003
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Another e-mail, three years later referred to a
painting by the same artist, but but made no mention of A W Elson & Co.
Karen Smith wrote:
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"I
am interested in finding out more about the artist J. H. S, Kever.
I know that he was Dutch and died in about
1922. I have a painting of his of a seated lady sewing with a small
blonde child next to her watching,
It is framed in an ornate gold frame with a
small plaque at the bottom with the artists name inscribed. The painting
is also signed KEVER ..
I would like to know more about the artist and
this work in particular. I hope someone can help.
Thank you.
Karen Smith: 14 January 2006
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If you can help to answer
the question above, please
e-mail me.
Thank you.
- Peter Stubbs
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Question
10
"The Little Rose of Lyme
Regis"
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Message from Robin:
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"I recently purchased a truly
haunting portrait in an antique shop. It was only $10, yet has a
lovely frame and the little girl just, well, takes possession of whomever
view her. She does seem forlorn, so perhaps that is why I was lucky
enough to get her.
At the bottom of the picture
on the left corner, it says James McNeill Whistler Pine (? I think its pine)
In the middle in larger print is says 'The Little Rose of Lyme Regis' and in
the right corner is says copyright A.W. Elson & Co. Boston.
I know that this is a copy or
something like, the painting of the same name by Whistler. However,
when I wrote to an expert on his work, she told me that I must have a page
from a book or old catalogue. I knew this was not so. You can
see that the actual picture portion is impressed into the paper and the
tonal grey brown qualities are exceptional. I think it may be just the
kind of photograph you discussed.
I wonder if you know anything
more about my lovely girl and if she has any worth, other than that of my
heart. I'd be happy to send you a jpeg of the portrait if you would
like.
I am a teacher/
photographer....however I did work in an Antique Shop as a teen, and this
just strikes me as a forgotten treasure."
Robin, Rochester, Michigan: February 2004 |
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Message from Doris Livezey:
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"I too have a sepia tone print
of 'The Little Rose of Lyme Regis'. It was in my grandmother's
house in Connecticut.
It was framed at the Sterling Art
Shop in Schenectady, NY. The print is older than I am (I'm 65).
I wonder if there is any more
information about it.."
Doris Livezey, San Jose, California: December 17, 2006
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Reply to Doris Livezey:
Key
"LITTLE ROSE OF LYME REGIS" (including the inverted commas) into Google.
It should find quite a few links.
It found 73 links when I tried it today.
- Peter Stubbs,
December 17, 2006 |
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Question
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Martha Washington |
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Reproduced with acknowledgement
to Dolores Fogelsinger
Message from Dolores Fogelsinger
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"I have portrait of Martha Washington that is oval under
Martha it states copyright 1893 by A.W. Elson & Co. Boston. Under this
Martha Washington and under it has From the Athenaeum portrait by Gilbert
Stuart.
I would appreciate any information a value of this."
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Dolores Fogelsinger, Michigan, USA: August 2004 |
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If you can help to answer
the question above, please
e-mail me.
Thank you. - Peter Stubbs
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Question
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Portrait by Thomas Sully Finx |
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Message
received by e-mail:
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"I
have a black and white portrait by Thomas Sully Finx. the torn hat,
copyright A.W.Elson Boston mass, do you know anything about it, age value?
it is framed in an old oak frame. Thank you."
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e-mail received 15 March 2004 |
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If you can help to answer
the question above, please
e-mail me.
Thank you.
- Peter Stubbs
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Question
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Presentation in the Temple |
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Message from M Brindamour
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"I have an old print or something, not a photo, of a young
girl playing a lute. It is dated 1904, A W Elson, Boston.
She is barefooted and seems to be sitting up on a shelf or
terraced table of some kind. There is a small piece of paper attached
to the edge of the table just below her right foot - her legs are crossed,
left foot up - that says (?)
Victor Carpathvis. Under that is like a chemistry formula 2 M something X
only the numbers are smaller than the letters like a formula.
Have you ever seen this or know anything about it?
It is entitled Presentation in the temple - detail - Carpaccio. If you have any information about this I would be
grateful to hear from you. It is a very intriguing picture because of
the strange paper with the name and formula." |
M Brindamour Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA:
February 2005 |
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Comment
I don't know the significance of the
letters and numbers, but this will be a copy (carbon print or photogravure)
by A W Elson & Co of detail in the painting Presentation of Jesus in The
Temple by the Italian
painter, Vittore Carpaccio (1472-1526).
The painting has a group of standing
figures, including Mary holding Jesus. Beneath them are three angels,
seated, playing instruments, a
crumhorn, a lute and a lyre.
The painting is now
in the Gallerie dell'Accademia, Venice. A copy can be found on the The
World Gallery of Art web site. Key wga carpaccio temple
into Google to find the page.
Peter Stubbs -
February 2005 |
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Question
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Shakespeare's Birthplace |
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Message from Bob Freedom:
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"I have a picture of the room where Shakespeare was born. On the bottom of
the picture or photo are the words-"The room where Shakespeare was born" and
Copyright 1898 by A.W.Elson & Co. of Boston. Could you give me an idea of
its value? It is in good condition. How can I find the value of this
picture?
Thank you." |
Bob Freedom, New York, USA: March 2005 |
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UPDATE
September 15, 2007
James Chrismond, West Haven
Connecticut, USA also has a copy of this photo and is keen to discover more
about it. |
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If you can
tell Bob or James anything about this picture, please
e-mail me.
Thank you. - Peter Stubbs
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Question
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Soldier by Fireplace |
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Message from Mary Ann:
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"I currently own a large
photograph with a raised stamp on bottom indicating it is by A W Elson of
Boston. The photograph is a very rustic picture of a young soldier by a
fireplace. Have you gotten any information on this type of photograph? It
is in a very old frame and the print is very large." |
Mary Ann: August 2004 |
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If you can help to answer
the question above, please
e-mail me.
Thank you. - Peter Stubbs
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Question
16
'Spirit of 76' |
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Thank you to Tana Pinkerton of Roundup,
Montana, USA who sent me the photograph and comments below.

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Reproduced with acknowledgement to Tina Pinkerton
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"I believe I have a carbon print
of the "Spirit of '76". It is framed similar to the 1st picture of
Lincoln on your website.
There is a little water damage on the
bottom of the picture and also some water marks on the upper portion of
the picture. It has a mat with the AW Elson & Company Boston Imprint on
it.
Any information you could send me would
be much appreciated."
Tana Pinkerton, Roundup, Montana, USA, 1 December 2005 |
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If you can provide any info on this or on any of
the other photos mentioned on this page, please
e-mail me.
Thank you. - Peter Stubbs |
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Answer
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Print for Sale
The
Pot of Gold Antiques web site, Colorado, USA, is currently
(February 2008) offering this print for sale for
US$2,600.
I've reproduced the details from the 'Pot of
Gold Antiques' web site here in case the page on that site
above vanishes in the event of the print being sold or withdrawn. |
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Peter Stubbs: February 5, 2008
AND thank you to Gary Huber, Colorado, USA for telling me about this sale. |
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Question
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"The Sower"
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Here is a question that was left in the EdinPhoto Guest Book.
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"I have a very large carbon photograph of "The Sower".
It is in sepia type tones.
The frame is quarter sawn oak
with a smaller brass engraved label reading "A Gift to the Palisade School"
The glass is hand rolled with
all the normal flaws.
The photo has an embossed matt
reading:
"A W Elson & Company: Carbon Photograph"
J F Millet painted "The
Sower". He is a famous French artist who did many peasant
scenes. The original painting has hung in the Boston Museum since
around 1880, about fifteen years after it was first painted (I believe).
The photo is huge and measures
26"W x 34"H without matting or frame.
This thing is stunning and
causes everyone to ask of its history. Please fill in the blank
expression on my face with an intelligent comment."
- Was it common to photograph paintings?
- Do you know anything about this
company?
- What of the Palisade School in Boston?
- Was it linked to photography?
- Do you know who worked
there doing projects like this?
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GuestBook [anon]
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September 2002 |
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If you can help to answer
these questions above, please
e-mail me.
Thank you.
- Peter
Stubbs
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Question
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[unknown subject] |
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Here is another query
received by e-mail:
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"Hello, Can someone tell me where to look
for information on A.W. Elson and Co. of Boston? I have a print dated
1904 and it is way to cool. I would love to find info on it, but I'm
drowning in the Web.
Thanks." |
TimberTee@yahoo.com
- December 2002 |
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Comment
Much of
the work of AW Elson appears to have been photogravure images, produced
in the 1890s, often portraits for illustrations in books including some
for limited editions.
However the
Appalachian Arts web site refers to AW Elson
photogravures in a book published in 1925. This site also gives a very
brief definition of the photogravure process.
Peter Stubbs - December 2002
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