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Saughton

1.

George Smith
British Columbia, Canada

-  Saughton House

-  Saughton Hall

2.

Ken Smith
Calgary, Alberta, Canada

-  Saughton Hall

3.

Matt Rooney
New Cumnock, Ayrshire, Scotland

-  Saughton Prison

       -  Picking Potatoes

       -  The Journey Home

4.

David Welsh
East Lothian, Scotland

-  Move from Pilton

-  Tony Demarco's

-  Local Shops

-  'Busy Bee'

 

Recollections

1.

George Smith

British Columbia, Canada - Dec 2004

Saughton House

The building behind the three-arched bridge in the engraving above is Saughton House.  It was demolished to make room for Broomhouse primary School.

Saughton Hall

There was also a Saughton Hall, which stood in 98 acres of land, built around mid-1600s, or perhaps developed from an even earlier building.  It was purchased by Edinburgh Corporation in 1900 to be developed as a public park and housing.  The building became derelict and dangerous and was demolished in 1952.

Further details can be found in a Historic Monuments (Scotland) report of 1929 which also includes a floor plan of the building.  The report records that the property remained in the family of Robert Baird (who was knighted in 1695) from 1660 until the early 19th century.

It then became The Institute for the Recovery of the Insane, described as "a private lunatic asylum exclusively designed for the reception of Patients of the higher ranks".

Saughton Hall

Thank you to George Smith for providing the details above, and also for his reminiscences of the 1930s.  George describes Saughton Hall as:

"a derelict building which teased my juvenile imagination.  It was turreted and reminiscent of Dracula or perhaps The Munsters. I know it was owned by the Baird family (my mother was a Baird).  The building  was used as accommodation during the 1908 Exhibition."

George Smith, British Columbia, Canada - Dec 2004

 

Recollections

2.

Ken Smith

Calgary, Alberta, Canada

Saughton Hall

Ken Smith of Calgary, Alberta, Canada  recalls a story of an apparition:

"a 'white lady', which caused a stir at a concert in the park some time just before Saughton Hall was demolished by the Royal Engineers and the Fire Brigade in 1952"

Ken Smith, Calgary, Alberta, Canada, Feb 2005
Ken is not related to George Smith, above

 

Recollections

3.

Matt Rooney

New Cumnock, Ayrshire, Scotland

Saughton Prison

Thank you to Matt Rooney for the following recollections.

Matt wrote:

Picking Potatoes

"My recollections of Saughton, while working as a driver for William Stewart's coaches of Dalkeith, were of  arriving at the prison very early to collect a few prisoners and their warders and take them to the  'tatties' .
The furthest we went was round about Berwick.  The prisoners were sort of trustee's, or they didn't have long to go before the end of their sentences, so they were allowed out to work on selected farms, where they helped to lift the tatties,
I do remember taking one of the trustees into a local village for messages for the farmer's wife.  The farmer fed them each day.  All I had to do was drop them off, and either myself or another driver would collect them and take them back to Saughton."

The Journey Home

"Another time I was at one farm and the prisoners and the warders were late in finishing up for the night.  I had to take a shortcut along Princes Street, which was normally taboo at that time as the route was mapped out to avoid the City at all costs, but it was unavoidable.
Now the buses that we the Drivers drove were the old type with wind-down handles for the windows, so we were told by the boss to unscrew these, so that the prisoners couldn't open them.  But, within 2 minutes of knowing that they would be going along Princes Street they had all the windows open and were whistling at all the girls and ladies in the street.
Fortunately, none of them attempted to escape, as they could easily have disappeared into the crowds.   Needless to say, that never happened again."
Matt Rooney:  New Cumnock, Ayrshire

 

Recollections

4.

David Welsh

East Lothian, Scotland

Thank you to David Welsh who wrote:

Move from Pilton

"My family moved to Saughton Mains Loan from the Pilton prefabs in 1966 and lived there until 1981 when I got married."

Tony Demarco's

"There was a great bunch of kids there and we spent our nights sitting on the wall outside Tony Demarco's chippy which, when it opened in 1971, charged the princely sum of 11p for a fish supper and 4p for a bag of chips.

Tony is my cousin and I occasionally got treated to a freebie if I was lucky."

Local Shops

"The local shops which have now been pulled down to make way for houses included:

-  Joe Massey, the baker.

-  Walsh's newsagent, where my mum worked for a while.

-  Gavin, the butcher."

Busy Bee

"Once I got to 18, I worked in the Busy Bee pub along with several colourful characters.  The pub is still there, although looking a little run down these days."

David Welsh, East Lothian:  April 18, 2008

 

Saughton  -  Old Engravings

 

 

 

 

 

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Photographs and Other Images  -  These include portraits of photographers  -  photographic outings -  Princes Street views  -  Newhaven Fishwives  -  etc.  Early Photography in Edinburgh  -  Talbot, Brewster, Hill & Adamson, Early Professional Photographers in Princes Street, etc.  Professional Photographers in Edinburgh  -  1840 to 1940  -  Their names, dates of business and studio addresses.  The Photographic Society of Scotland  -  1856 to 1873  -  Lectures, Exhibitions, Outings, etc.  The History of Edinburgh Photographic Society  -  1861 to date  -  Lectures, Exhibitions, Outings, Poems, etc.  EPS Publications - EPS Handwritten Records  -  Photographic Journals  -  Trade Directories  -  Books  -  etc.  Thanks to all who have encouraged and supported me in creating the EdinPhoto web site  -  including descendants of photogrpahers  -  researchers  -  providers of photographs and other material  Background notes on the research thal led up to the creation of this site  -   together with lists of new material added to the site since its launch.  Brief comments on how this site might be used  -  Just browsing?  -  Seeking specific information?  Please add your questions, suggestions or other comments to the Guest Book.  Links to other web sites  -  Photographic Societies  -  Photographic History  -  Family History  -  etc.  Click here to find the link to the Edinburgh Photogrpahic Society web site.  Details of who owns the copyright of photographs and other mateiral on this web site.

A selection of my photographs, many from Edinburgh throughout the year.   Also photos from Scotland, London, Iceland, Italy, Hong Kong and elsewhere    Many old maps of Edinburgh (Old Town, New Town, while City), Leith and Newhaven.  Includes several old transport maps and a comparison of old maps with recent aerial photos.   Old engravings, mailly of Edinburgh scenes.  Some from the 1820s, some from the 1890s,  some others - includes many hand-coloured examples from the 1820s.   News from Edinburgh today  -  Events, Collections, Buildings and Gardens, Transport   This site includes     1. Post card portraits taken in studios in Edinburgh:    2. Post card views either takeen/published by Ediburgh photographers or views of Edinburgh, or both.y Edinburgh    Views of Edinburgh, grouped into three sections:     1. Street views:    2. Buildings:    3. Around Edinburgh   Views of transport around Edinburgh  -  Horse drawn trams and buses, cable cars, electric trams, buses and a few railway photos.  Also several maps of Edinburgh's bus and tram routes.   Summary of the updates added to this site each month since the site was launched   Frequently Asked Questions

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