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Edinburgh Recollections
Corstorphine
and
Clermiston
Districts about 4 miles to the west
of the centre of Edinburgh |
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Recollections
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1. |
Jim Thomson
Australia |
- Plumbers: Fell &
Mathieson |
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2. |
Maxine
Adam
Vancouver, British
Columbia, Canada |
- Cinema: The
Astoria |
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Betty
McGill
Edinburgh |
- Cinema: The
Astoria |
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4. |
Ian Thomson
Lake Maquarie, New South Wales, Australia |
- Rest & Be Thankful
- Edinburgh Zoo |
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5. |
Ian Thomson
Lake Maquarie, New South Wales, Australia |
- Buttercup Farm |
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6. |
Frances MacRae
Corstorphine Trust, Edinburgh |
- Year of the
Homecoming, 2009 |
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7. |
Bill
Scott
Alnwick, Northumberland, England |
- Buttercup Farm |
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8. |
Ian Thomson
Lake Maquarie, New South Wales, Australia |
- Buttercup Farm
- Plumbers -
Fell & Mathieson Bike
- Fell & Mathieson Barrow |
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9. |
Ian Thomson
Lake Maquarie, New South Wales, Australia |
- Fell & Mathieson
- As a Young Apprentice
- Davey Fell
- On the Tenements
- Corstorphine: 1940s + 1950s |
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10. |
Tony
Bowden
Gloucester, Gloucestershire,
England |
- Buttercup Farm |
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11. |
Tony
Bowden
Gloucester, Gloucestershire,
England |
- Buttercup Farm
- Question: 1936 photo |
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12. |
Bill
Scott
Alnwick, Northumberland, England |
- Buttercup Farm
- writing a book |
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13. |
Ian Thomson
Lake Maquarie, New South Wales, Australia |
- Fishy Tamson
- Harvey, The Grocer
- Dick, The Butcher
- Corstorphine High Street
- The Farm |
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14. |
Ian Thomson
Lake Maquarie, New South Wales, Australia |
- The Scarlet's Farm
- Travel by Tram
- Tradesmen
- Return Home
- Takeover
- Football |
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15. |
Ian Thomson
Lake Maquarie, New South Wales, Australia |
- Corncrakes
- Tomatoes from the Gyle
- Doctors
- Carrick Knowe Houses |
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16. |
Ian
Taylor
South Glasgow, Scotland |
- Buttercup Dairies |
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17. |
Stuart Burgess
Devon, England |
- Corrie Woods |
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18. |
Bill
Hall
Musselburgh, East Lothian, Scotland |
- North Clermiston Farm |
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19. |
Bill
Scott
Alnwick, Northumberland, England |
- Buttercup Poultry Farm |
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20. |
Avril Finlayson Smith
Alnwick, Northumberland, England |
- Buttercup Poultry Farm |
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21. |
Bill
Scott
Alnwick, Northumberland, England |
- Buttercup Poultry Farm |
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22. |
Ian Thomson
Lake Maquarie, New South Wales, Australia |
- Buttercup Farm, 1949 |
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23. |
Jim Thomson
Australia |
- Plumbers: Fell &
Mathieson
- Bike
- Dave Fell
- Bob Sutherland
- Corstorphine |
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24. |
Ian Thomson
Lake Maquarie, New South Wales, Australia |
- Plumbers: Fell &
Mathieson
- Bike
- Raleigh |
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25. |
Ian Thomson
Lake Maquarie, New South Wales, Australia |
- Buttercup Farm
- Plumbers -
Fell & Mathieson Bike
- Fell & Mathieson Barrow |
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26. |
Ian Thomson
Lake Maquarie, New South Wales, Australia |
- Corstorphine Road
- Pinkhill
- Football
- Golf Course
- Today |
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Recollections
1.
Jim Thomson
Australia
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Thank you to Jim Thomson, now living in Australia, who wrote: |
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Fell & Mathieson
Plumbing and Photography
"I served my apprenticeship as a young
tradesman with Fell & Mathiesion (Plumbers), St Johns Road, Corstorphine.
I married and moved to Australia where,
after a few years, I set up my own business. After a number of
years. I took a strong interest in wildlife photography, which I
still do to this day.
I often think of my early days as a plumber
in Corstorphine and my boss with his push bike loaded with tools,
putty paint, etc, I can assure you I was well trained by Dave Fell and
it has stood me in good stead all my life.
I am now 80 and still active with my
photography.
I often wonder what Corstorphine is like now"
Jim Thomson,
Australia: April 19, 2008 |
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The Bike
The bike
that Jim mentions is now in the Corstorphine Trust Museum at the
Corstorphine Heritage Centre. Here is a photo that I took of it in
March 2011.
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Peter Stubbs, Edinburgh: April 12,
2011 |
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Recollections
2.
Maxine Adam
Vancouver, British
Columbia, Canada |
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Thank you to Maxine Adam, now living in
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada, who wrote: |
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Cinema
The Astoria
"I was browsing the site, waxing all nostalgic
and noticed that the recollections of cinemas in Edinburgh didn't mention
'The Astoria' at
Corstorphine. Doesn't anyone remember that old flea pit?
My granny and I used to go there twice a week
as they changed the program mid week in those days. She'd buy us our 1/4
of sweeties at the wee sweet shop on the way there, mine were raspberry
sookers and hers were aniseed balls!
Happy days."
Maxine Adam, Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada:
July 1, 2008 |
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Recollections
3.
Betty McGill
Edinburgh |
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Thank you to Betty McGill, Edinburgh who wrote: |
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Cinema
The Astoria
"In answer to Maxine,
yes I remember the Astoria very well. My
boyfriend and I used to go there once a week.
It's
gone now, replace by a frozen food store.
Corstorphine though,
like everywhere else, is
a now a very busy
thoroughfare with heavy traffic !!!
It still has its little park though."
Betty McGill, Edinburgh: July 2, 2008 |
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Thanks for the comments, Betty.
Corstorphine also still has:
- Edinburgh Zoo on Corstorphine
Hill, with some new enclosures and others planned.
- The
old tower on Corstorphine Hill. It is open some summer
weekends and gives good views
around Edinburgh.
- The Dower House, now re-named the
Corstorphine Heritage Centre, at the edge of St Margaret's
Park. The history of this house can be traced back to 1587
Peter Stubbs: July 3,
2008 |
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Recollections
4.
Ian Thomson
Lake Maquarie, New
South Wales, Australia |
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Thank you to Ian Thomson, Lake Maquarie, New South Wales, Australia who wrote
about Corstorphine Hill.
Ian wrote: |
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Rest & Be Thankful
"Three years ago,
one Sunday morning, my
daughter and I walked a trail through Corstorphine Woods which has
never changed in 60 yrs. It winds its way
to the Rest &
Be Thankful, one of the finest
views of Edinburgh, to the right is the
zoo fence.
It was a trip down
memory lane for me. As a boy in the
1940s,
I use to play all over the woods, sledging in
winter."
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Edinburgh Zoo
From
the tower, entry to the zoo was either through
loose pailings or by
tunnelling under.
There was a disused
quarry in the woods. I wonder what
the history of this is.
Also,
do readers remember when stray bombs hit the zoo
during the war years, with a number of animals
escaping? We were in our
Anderson shelter in the garden.
I can remember that night clearly.
I look back at my
childhood with fond memories."
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Ian Thomson, Lake Maquarie, New South Wales, Australia:
July 7, 2008 |
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Recollections
5.
Ian Thomson
Lake Maquarie, New
South Wales, Australia |
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Ian Thomson wrote again, after reading about Dr
Lindsay Lennie's research into the
Buttercup
Dairy Co shops.
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Ian wrote: |
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Buttercup Farm
"In 1949,
when I started my
apprenticeship as a plumber with
Fell & Mathieson, my
first job was at Buttercup
Farm, at the top of Clermiston Hill,
Corstorphine.
Our
firm did the plumbing on the farm.
Old Bob Sutherland and I
used to travel along St John's Road,
Corstorphine and up the Clermiston Hill,
sometimes pushing the old iron barrow.
The farm was on the
left, now long since gone. Old Mr Ewing
lived in the big house on the farm. He
must have been near 80, or so it seemed to me just turned 15.
He was a small, well
dressed man.
On Saturday
mornings,
after a week's work he would make his rounds,
giving the tradesmen £1 each and the apprentices ten
shillings each. Needless to say, we
were all peeping around corners awaiting his arrival.
Buttercup Farm
was used for storage of goods, and for horse
stables. I also remember the Buttercup Dairy Co
shop at the bottom of
Easter Road.
Ian Thomson, Lake Maquarie, New South Wales, Australia:
November 14, 2008 |
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Recollections
6.
Frances McRae
Corstorphine Trust,
Edinburgh |
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Frances MacRae, Archivist at Corstorphine Trust
left the message below in the EdinPhoto guestbook.
If you'd like to contact the Corstorphine Trust
after reading her message, here is the address to send your email to:
Corstorphine
Trust |
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Frances wrote:
Year of the Homecoming
2009
"2009 has been designated the 'Year Of
The Homecoming'. Here at Corstorphine Trust we are planning a week long
series of events from 29th June-4th July, 2009
As part of this week we intend to have a
display in the Dower House (headquarters of The
Corstorphine Trust) featuring people/families who were born in
Corstorphine, who now live in other parts of the
world. If you would like to tell me some
of your memories of Corstorphine I would be delighted to include them in
our display."
Frances MacRae, Corstorphine Trust, Edinburgh
Message posted in guestbook November 18, 2008. |
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Recollections
7.
Bill Scott
Alnwick,
Northumberland, England |
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Buttercup Farm |
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Growing up on the Farm
Thank you to Bill Scott for contacting me and
telling me his Internet pages that give
- a short
history
of Buttercup Dairies and founder, Andrew Ewing.
- some
photographs associated with the Buttercup Dairy Company.
Bill describes in these pages how, in the 1950s, he
was born and brought up on Buttercup poultry farm, on the hill at
Clermiston, by his parents, grandparents and other family members who
lived on the farm.
He mentions that Inverarites Estate, Fox Covert and
Clermiston were all neighbours to Buttercup Farm. |
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Andrew Ewing
Bill describes Andrew Ewing
(1869-1956) the owner of the Buttercup Dairy Company shops and
Buttercup Farm as being a generous man with the demeanour of Mr Chips.
Andrew donated all his eggs laid on a Sunday to charity.
Bill later added:
"Since the daily lay
was 110,000, I wonder where
all the eggs went." |
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Shops
Andrew opened his first dairy shop around 1904.
By the 1920s, he had a chain of 250 Buttercup Dairy Company shops across
Scotland and Northern England. |
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Hens
At its peak around 1930, Buttercup poultry farm
occupied 100 acres. It had 6 miles of
road and 200,000 hens. It was known locally as 'Hen City' |
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Acknowledgement: Bill Scott,
Alnwick, Northumberland, England:
February 3 + March 3, 2009 |
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Recollections
8.
Ian Thomson
Lake Maquarie, New
South Wales, Australia |
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Thank you to Ian Thomson who replied: |
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Buttercup Farm
"Bill Scott's comments
(7 above) on Buttercup Farm bring back memories. My
first job there was in the gardener's cottage,
down the lane on the right hand side, and also
the big white house where Mr
Ewing lived.
The
hen houses must have been gone by 1949.
I don't remember them
Fox Covert and
Clerwood were neighbours to the buttercup"
Plumbers
"Fell &
Mathieson,
plumbers and electricians,
were situated in St John's Road, Corstorphine,
almost opposite Manse Road, up a lane
that opened out to a large yard shared by a grocers,
bakers and paper
shop.
On a trip back
to Edinburgh, I walked up the lane and
was surprised to see a new house where the workshop used
to be."
Fell & Mathieson - Bike
"I met
Bill Mathieson in the
1990s at the Corstorphine Trust, when it
met in Dr Cormack's house. He would have been in his 80s then
and had retired to a cottage in Manse Road.
Also in the
trust was a Fell & Mathieson bike,
used by the plumbers as a means of travel to the
jobs."
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"Many a day we cycled to the farms as far
away as Gogar, Ratho
and Broxburn. It was a 1-gear
bike with box in front, loaded up with plumbing tools etc.
The back wheel would rise off
the ground, so you had to get on the
saddle quick.
In
these days, motor cars were few & far
between and the Maybury and Glasgow Road was a peaceful spot."
Fell & Mathieson - Barrow
"The
big iron barrow which stood in the yard,
rain or shine, was a great muscle-builder,
pushing it up Clermiston Hill, laden
to the guddle.
On the way
down we took up a position in front, like
a horse, andsparks flew from tackety boots.
I would break in to a trot with old Bob
Sutherland hanging on to the back,
giving my ears a roasting.
The
trip along St John's Road was
'stop-and-start'
with old bob doffing his bonnet to the customers.
He certainly knew how to hang on to the back of the barrow.
We always seemed to appear at the
workshop one minute before finishing time,
4.45pm."
Ian Thomson, Lake Maquarie, New South Wales, Australia:
February 10, 2009 |
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Recollections
9.
Ian Thomson
Lake Maquarie, New
South Wales, Australia |
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Thank you to Ian Thomson who replied: |
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Fell &
Mathieson
As a Young Apprentice
"As a just-turned-fifteen-year-old,
gullible I certainly was. In the
first year, I was sent by my mate to the chemist shop and
spent an hour there awaiting a long stand,
and I was sent to the painter's shop for a tin of tartan
paint.
Another
job we did was cleaning
out the big lead-lined
cisterns in the attic - dead birds,
muck, you name it, then emptying the water
out and waxing with candles
and a blowlamp to close of any leaks."
Davey Fell
"The first one
I did was with young
Davey Fell. He had me paddling about inside the cistern
without my breeks on, in the middle of
winter, too. The
older apprentices were the worst, taking a delight in my misfortune,
Davey,
at the time, was in his last year
and was the despair of his father. He was once
caught on the bike coming down Clermiston
with two other apprentices on board at a
rapid speed. The only trouble
was that they ran into the police at the
bottom of the hill."
On the Tenements
"I remember
working at the tenements in
Victor Park, on the roof fixing the
leaking rones (gutters). We came
through the skylight. Rope was
wrapped around me. Old bob in
the attic fed out the rope as i eased my
way down the slates to the rones. You
had to repair the joints, so leaning over
was a must.
The order of the day was putty and
paint, our favourite weapon for anything to do with leaks.
Needless to say, you were looking down 4 stories, winter time too.
Well, it happened. The stone paint
slipped from my fingers. I watched,
entranced as it made its way down,
striking the pavement like a bomb.
Old Bob had a
few choice words for me. Likewise,
the boss, when we returned to the shop.
Cleaning gear was
supplied. The butcher's
shop window had turned to stone. After
much scrubbing it was presentable, but the
pavement remained coloured for a long time after."
Corstorphine: 1940s
and 1950s
"When I look
back at Corstorphine in the 1940s and
early-1950s, some things make me
chuckle, like standing in St John's Road,
with old Bob and another old timer with our caps on our hearts,
after hearing king george had died, or being
told by the lady of the house there would be no water for our drums
(billycans) for
our tea. We even worked
Christmas Day.
There
was a class distinction in those days.
Still, you could enjoy a laugh, watching old
Bob perform with the customers that
withering smile (he never smiled at us),
his cap off revealing a shiny top.
With
a different voice,
he was from the old school, waistcoat
pocket watch, boots you could see your
face in, but above all a fine tradesman."
Ian Thomson, Lake Maquarie, New South Wales, Australia:
February 10, 2009 |
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Recollections
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Tony Bowden
Gloucester,
Gloucestershire, England |
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Thank you to Tony Bowden who wrote: |
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Buttercup Farm
"My Great Grandfather
was the Manager for the Poultry farm that supplied the chickens and eggs
(and mushrooms, believe it or not) to the stores!
He was the Manager when the farm caught fire
and burnt down - and Mr Ewing made the decision to begin a pig farm.
(This is my recollection of what
I was told by my Granny.)
Tony Bowden,
Gloucester, Gloucestershire, England:
February 16, 2009 |
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Tony Bowden
Gloucester,
Gloucestershire, England |
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Tony Bowden added: |
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Question
Buttercup Farm -
Photograph of the Fire, 1936
"I would appreciate it if you were able
to ask if anybody has seen or knows where I can get any photos relating to
the farm fire in 1936.
My Granny seems to recall the front page of
one of the Edinburgh papers showed her Father at the time of the fire in
his pyjamas.
If any of your contributors could help it
would be much appreciated!
Tony Bowden,
Gloucester, Gloucestershire, England:
February 16, 2009 |
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Answer?
I've had a brief look
through the Scotsman Archive and Scran web sites.
I've not found the photograph of the fire,
but may have missed it because I just use the free service and do
not subscribe to the full service from these two companies.
However, I see that the
fire was reported in an article in The Scotsman newspaper on
July 25, 1936.
If you can help Tony to
find the photo that he is looking for, please email me, then I'll
forward your message to him.
Thank you.
- Peter Stubbs: February 26, 2009 |
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Recollections
12.
Bill Scott
Alnwick,
Northumberland, England |
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Buttercup Farm |
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Thank you to Bill Scott who followed up his comments
(in recollections 7 above) by telling me: |
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Book
"I am writing a
history of Buttercup Farm. I hope to publish this
as a book.
I'd
welcome any stories or recollections about the Buttercup Dairy Company or
Poultry Farm that anybody could send to me." |
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Reply to Bill Scott
If you'd like to send a reply to Bill Scott,
please email me, then I'll pass on your message to him.
Thank you -
Peter Stubbs: March 3, 2009 |
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Update - January
2011
Bill wrote on January 3, 2011 to let me know that he
hopes that his book on Buttercup Dairy Company will be published in March
2011. Here is a link to his web site about the company:
Buttercup Dairy Company
Peter Stubbs, Edinburgh: January
3, 2011 |
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Acknowledgement: Bill Scott,
Alnwick, Northumberland, England: Feby 3, 2009 + Jan 3, 2011 |
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Recollections
13.
Ian Thomson
Lake Maquarie, New
South Wales, Australia |
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Thank you to Ian Thomson who replied: |
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Fishy Tamson
"I enjoyed your recent pic of
Thomson, the Fishmonger at Old Corstorphine.
Your collection of the village brings back memories for me.
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My travels as
a plumber's apprentice with
Fell & Mathieson took
me to Fishy Tamson, as we called
them, where we did plumbing in the yard at
the back in the cleaning bays.
The
shop was just past the Harp Hotel on the
north side of St John's Road, going
into the city. I only vaguely
remember the boss, but one thing I do
remember when working there was the hit
song 'I'm in the
Mood for Love'. Everybody was singing it.
This was in the early 1950s. It's funny how you associate
places with songs."
Harvey,
The Grocers
"Not far from
Fishy Tamson was
Harvey,
the grocers, where I
worked as a message boy after school for a few bob, biking around
Corstorphine or helping in the shop."
Dick, The
Butcher
"I moved on to
dick the butcher, across the road, received 5 shillings
a week - a lot of money
for school boy in these days.
Corstorphine High
Street
"The High Street,
which features in one of your pics, was
the main hub of life in the 1940s.
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Many a
day was spent in the queue for the rations
during the war, and who can forget
Scobie's sweety shop on the corner of High Street and North Saughton
Road, with the fine old church opposite.
A wander
through the graveyard is the history of
Corstorphine.
The 13th boys
brigade were in the hall next door with old
Captain Knight keeping us boys in order.
We had a a good football team too.
I was a regular on the wing , but I
was asked to leave because of my church attendance."
The Farm
"On the road to
Gogar, past St Margaret's Park, the school and the piggery, there
was a farm where the finest tomatoes were obtained for 2 bob a bag.
That was a Sunday trip on the bike."
Ian Thomson, Lake Maquarie, New South Wales, Australia:
March 23, 2009 |
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14.
Ian Thomson
Lake Maquarie, New
South Wales, Australia |
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Thank you to Ian Thomson who wrote again with more
memories of working for Fell & Mathieson, plumbers at Corstorphine.
Ian wrote: |
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The Scarlet's Farm
"Our travels in plumbing from
Corstorphine took us to the Scarlet's farm up the
Wallyford Brae. I beleive the
boss's daughter was married to the
son.
Travel by Tram
"So,
it was down the alley and on to the tram
in St John's Road, not before the purchase
of 5 Woodbine 7
pence for old Bob.
The
tools etc. were dispatched in the well of the tram, guarded by the
conductor. Up
the stairs we went. I usually talked
Bob into the front compartment with closed
glass door where he could puff to his heart's
content as we shoogled our way along to
the Post Office.
There, we
changed trams for Levenhall via Portobello and
Joppa. Then we had a slow shuffle up the brae to the
big house, half way up the brae on
the left, getting there in time for
morning tea."
Tradesmen
"Work
was in the big
bathrooms. The joiners came from
Musselburgh. One individual nailed
the metal lunch box with my piece
(sandwich) to
the floor.
Dinner time
was always a laugh with the tradesmen. Old
Bob had a poor appetite, so i had
to help him there. Taking back your
piece to the misses was taboo."
Return Journey
"Then we
repeated the journey, back to
Corstorphine, always arriving around
finishing time."
Takeover
"Fell &
Mathieson were later
taken over by two of there workmen,
wee Jock Fairbairn, plumber, and
Jimmy
Wilson, electrician."
Football
"I met Jimmy
on one of my trips back He ran the
Edinburgh Electrical Trades Football Team.
trades football team, and when
I was about 16,
they use to play me on the left wing.
I did not
hang on to the ball
as I was 2lbs lighter than a balloon
and there were some burly fullbacks.
Two other electricians from Fell & Mathieson played for us at
that time, George Laing and Jimmy Kinnaird who I
beleive migrated to
Canada."
Ian Thomson, Lake Maquarie, New South Wales, Australia:
March 23, 2009 |
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Recollections
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Ian Thomson
Lake Maquarie, New
South Wales, Australia |
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Thank you to Ian Thomson who wrote again, about four
months after telling me some of his memories above.
Ian wrote: |
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Corncrakes
"I
remember the call of the corncrakes around
Corstorphine. They are, gone now, taken over with urban
sprawl. I believe they still prevail
in the Hebrides in these days."
Corncrakes could
also be heard in other Edinburgh districts. A book by Ann
Mitchell about the area surrounding Calton Hill, published in 1998,
was titled 'No More Corncrakes'
- Peter Stubbs.
Tomatoes from the Gyle
"To the west of
Castle Avenue, Corstorphine, there
were fields and farms.
Where where the Gyle shopping
centre is now, there was a narrow farm
road that led to the
Gogar tomato houses. In season,
the finest of tomatoes were obtained for 2
bob a bag, a Sunday trip on the
bike. At
Gogarburn, a road to Ratho passed
the greenhouses just before Gogar
Station."
Doctors
"Dr Cormack,
one of the local doctors, lived in a big
stone house at the corner of the Manse Road and
St John's Road. He was a member of the
Corstorphine Trust. In my plumbing
days, Iworked in his house.
Our
family doctor was Dr Galbraith
whose practice was in
St John's Road opposite Kirk Loan."
Carrick Knowe Houses
"Carrick Knowe
houses must have
started in the early 1930s.
The Stank was the northern border
of the houses, after which were fields to
Tylers Acre, further to
the north..
On Summer days, in
August, us kids would watch the farmer cut the wheat,
and do the impossible, catching the
hares that shot out, to the east the golf coarse.
It was a playground for the kids
during the war.
I was interested
to read about an old Carrick Knowe person,
Jim Dow. He lived in the Terrace.
He left with his family for Africa, and
went on to be a successful journalist,
writer and Editor of 'The Scotsman'.
I remember him well."
Ian Thomson, Lake Maquarie, New South Wales, Australia:
July 11, 2009 |
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Recollections
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Ian Taylor
South Glasgow, Scotland |
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Thank you to Ian Taylor who wrote: |
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Buttercup Dairies
"I see that Dr Lindsay Lennie has visited
the old Buttercup Dairy shop (now Craiglea Clocks ) in Comiston Road
Edinburgh.
I remember this shop from my childhood years
as we lived very nearby. As
Dr Lennie
says, there is a re-creation in
'The Peoples' Palace museum
in Glasgow (well worth a
visit!).
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It brings back memories of hand-carved
butter pats, huge lumps of cheese cut with cheese-wires, and tiles
everywhere.
Thanks for the memories." |
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Ian Taylor, South Glasgow, Scotland:
August 11, 2009 |
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Stuart Burgess
Devon, England |
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Thank you to Stuart Burgess who wrote. |
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Corrie Woods
"The
'Corrie Woods' at
Corstorphine were great for adventures - no parental or adult supervision,
so you could make fires and boil water for tea and climb trees and play
soldiers or cowboys and indians.
Stuart Burgess: Devon, England: September 17, 2009 |
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Recollections
18.
Bill Hall
Musselburgh, East
Lothian, Scotland |
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Thank you to Bill Hall who wrote asking two
questions. |
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North Clermiston Farm
1. "Do you have any photographs of
North Clermiston Farm?
The
only one I have is from a newspaper
cutting that my Grandmother had
from when the farm was being pulled
down for building new houses.
I don't know the date."
2.
"Do you know if there is any connection between North Clermiston
Farm and the Buttercup Dairy Farm.?"
Bill Hall, Musselburgh, East Lothian, Scotland:
May 20, 2010 |
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Reply to Bill
Unfortunately I'm not able to
help with the two questions above. However, if you have any
comments that you would like to pass on to Bill,
please email me, then I'll pass them on to him.
Thank you.
Peter Stubbs, May 20, 2010 |
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Bill
added:
Our Family at North
Clermiston Farm
"My
Grandmother, as a girl, lived at North Clermiston Farm
around the 1890's.
Her
father, Joseph Williamson,
had been a Cabinetmaker in Bell's Brae,
Dean Village (Water of Leith Village). He
did a lot of the internal woodwork and
doors on Cabbie Stewart's House on Dean
Bridge.
However, Joseph was
taken unwell and the family moved:
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first
to Drylaw farm,
which is now the new Police Station at the top of Pennywell Road
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then
to North Clermiston farm where the oldest son Joseph Notman
Williamson took up pig farming.
This had been the trade of William Williamson my
Grandmother's Grandfather!
Emigration
Joseph (elder) died at North Clermiston Farm
and the family, headed now by Joseph Notman
Williamson, moved out to Edgefield farm at Loanhead to again
pig farm.
In
1903 Joseph Notman Williamson emigrated to Australia where he bred
pigs and became an orchardist growing apples, a perfect
marriage - pork
and apple!
Bill Hall, Musselburgh, East
Lothian, Scotland: May 20, 2010 |
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Recollections
19.
Bill Scott
Alnwick,
Northumberland, England |
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Buttercup Poultry Farm
Thank you to Bill Scott for allowing me to include
some of his images of Buttercup Poultry Farm on the EdinPhoto web site.
I've now added these photos and a brief note about
the farm and its connection to Buttercup Dairy Co to this page on the web
site:
©
Buttercup Poultry Farm
Bill Scott, Alnwick, Northumberland,
England: November 18, 2010 |
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Recollections
20.
Avril Finlayson Smith
Bendigo, Victoria,
Australia |
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Avril Finlayson Smith wrote:
Buttercup Poultry Farm
"I've just
been reading recollections about the Buttercup Poultry Farm.
This brought back memories of my visit's
there as a child, to
the Whiting Family.
I can't
remember too much about it, apart from it being
a very happy time.
Bill Scott points
out his mother, Annie
Davidson, in the photo of six
poultry assistants at the
farm. I am now wondering if this
was Annie Whiting before she married, Her
mother's name was Lizzie. It would be
great to perhaps find this out from Bill Scott,
if at all possible."
Avril Finlayson Smith, Bendigo,
Victoria, Australia
Message posted in EdinPhoto guest book, November 22, 2010 |
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Recollections
21.
Bill Scott
Alnwick,
Northumberland, England |
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Bill Scott replied, mentioning:
Buttercup Poultry Farm
"My mother's maiden
name was Davidson but her mother's maiden name was Wighton,
which is very close to Whiting!
There were a great
many Wightons living at the poultry farm, who
were brothers and sisters of my grandmother.
I believe that that Avril is referring to my Aunt Annie.
She was the daughter of Tom and Liz
Wighton. I don't have a picture
of Annie Wighton but I have one of Tom
and Liz."
Bill Scott, Alnwick, Northumberland,
England: November 22, 2010 |
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I've sent Bill's
full reply, and a copy of his photo of Tom and Liz to Avril.
Avril Finlayson Smith, Bendigo, Victoria, Australia: November 22, 2010 |
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Recollections
22.
Ian Thomson
Lake Maquarie, New
South Wales, Australia |
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Ian Thomson added: |
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Buttercup Farm
1949
"It's
great to see the Buttercup Farm again.
The picture of the entrance to the farm in the snow brought
back memories for me.
It was the
August 1, 1949,
the first day of my apprenticeship, that
the boss, Davey Fell,
told me to go with old Bb Sutherland
to Buttercup Farm.
I
had just turned 15 and was a skinny bag of
bones with new overalls that nearly
smothered me and brand new tackety boots.
Bob's
tool kit, in a split sack wrapped up with
rope, was promptly
put on my shoulder, then I was off along
St John's Road and up the
Clermiston Hill.
I was near collapsing by the time we
reached the farm and went down to the
gardener's cottage.
My
first job was laying all the tools out in a neat row on the sack
and cleaning them with a wee drop of
paraffin from the blowlamp.
Buttercup Farm
brought happy memories for me, returning
with Bob many times.
Old Mr Ewan, I can picture as if it was yesterday.
Wouldn't it be great to turn the clock back for one day?
Ian Thomson, Lake Maquarie, New South Wales, Australia:
November 23, 2010 |
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Recollections
23.
Jim Thomson
Australia
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Thank you to Jim Thomson, who wrote
'Recollections 1' above, for writing again to tell me more about the Fell
& Mathieson bike.
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Jim wrote: |
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Fell & Mathieson
Bike
"What a
great surprise it was to see the photo of the old bike
on the web site this morning. It is
fantastic, and it took me straight back to the days with Fell& Mathieson.
Here is the full
story of the bike on Clermiston Hill.
We were working on alterations on a house in Gordon Road.
Bob Sutherland was in charge. He
was an outstanding tradesman in the days when everything in plumbing
was lead.
On
that particular day there
were three young guys, Jimmy Wilson, Jock Fairborn, (1st year
apprentice) and myself, and one push bike.
When Bob said its time to knock off,
there was a rush to get the only bike.
I was the driver,
Jimmy Wilson was in the basket, and wee Jock was
on the back mudguard. Mad!
Off we went, down the
Clermiston, and near the bottom the brakes failed.
Wee Jock was trying to brake with
his heel against the rear wheel.
We spun round into
St John's Road.
Luckily, nobody was injured, but
we were just in time
for a Policeman to catch us.
We were reported to the Boss, Dave
Fell, and I recall we all got suspended for a day.
The things you do when you are young!"
Dave Fell
"Dave Fell was a
great person. Every morning,
he would take his bike and go home for
his morning tea.
He lived at 136 St John's
Road, near the bottom of Clermiston Hill.
It would take him
ages to get back up the hill, as every few
meters he would get of his bike, lift his cap,
and pass time with lady customers.
Before
my time, Dave Fell and Bill Mathieson
came back from the First World War and
started up together ,pushing there tools
around in a barrow."
Bob Sutherland
"Once
the business was established Bob Sutherland
came to work for Dave and Bill. He
spent the rest of his days working with them.
When
I think of Bob, I remember a chap who had boots that
you could see your reflections in.
He used to wear what I would call a 'railway
jacket' over his overalls.
He always had a fresh stiff caller on,
each day. I don't know about his shirt."
Corstorphine
"There are, no doubt, many
more stories that could be told about places and
people in Corstorphine."
Jim Thomson,
Australia: April 14, 2011 |
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24.
Ian Thomson
Lake Maquarie, New
South Wales, Australia |
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Ian Thomson wrote: |
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Fell & Mathieson
Bike
"I did see the
Fell & Mathieson bike on a trip back to Edinburgh. It looks
and polished now.
©
I might have spent
some time on it in the early-1950s. I'll now show this pic to
my grandkids."
Raleigh
"I
notice that it is a Raleigh. I bike on a Raleigh here in
Aussie, and when I was a boy, I travelled the highways and byways to
the Youth Hostels on a Raleigh with 3-speed Sturmey Archer gears.
Many a day, my pal
and I would hang on to the back of a timber truck in the highlands
as it crawled up the glens."
Ian Thomson, Lake Maquarie, New South Wales, Australia:
April 14, 2011 |
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Recollections
25.
Ian Thomson
Lake Maquarie, New
South Wales, Australia |
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Thank you to Ian Thomson for writing again with more
recollections of Corstorphine from 1848. Ian was prompted to send
his comments after reading reading recollections of his old school,
Boroughmuir.
Ian wrote: |
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Journey to the Butchers
"In 1948, on
Wednesday afternoons and Saturday mornings, I worked for the
butchers
at St John's Road, Corstorphine.
As soon as the
bell went at Boroughmuir school, I was on
my way from the English class. Miss
Williamson, I think, was my teacher.
Down the
stairs, I went, out the gates at
Viewforth, stretching my long skinny legs.
It was right turn at the lights in Gilmore
Place, then left turn and through
the rubber mill for the No.1 bus.
In those days,
the No.1 bus came every few minutes.
I
rose just past the dovecot and Sycamore Terrace,
ready for a quick exit at the terminus, Scobie's
sweet shop, Corstorphine.
It was through
the old church, dodging the gravestones,
out the back gate into the glebe and
up the wee hill to the butcher's shop opposite
the Harp Hotel in St John's Road."
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Deliveries
"Old Dick, the
butcher would have the tyres blown up on the message bike, one gear
with box at front.
All the
deliveries were wrapped up in white paper with names of customers.
I knew them off by heart.
I was no
muscle man. If I
turned sideways, you would miss me.
Up Clermiston Road, Hillview Terrace sometimes beat me, so it
was shanks pony and shove.
Saturday mornings
were busy,
taking in Broomfield and Carrick Knowe."
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Sausages and Mince
"If I
had time over, I would help
Dick with the sausages in the back shop.
My efforts earned me
two half-crowns
('5 bob').
I finished at 12
o'clock and was
on my
Raleigh to Carrick Knowe Hill,
always with a parcel of
mince etc for my mother.
Then, I got ready
for the football in the afternoon. No
wonder we slept soundly at night!"
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Ian Thomson, Lake Maquarie, New South Wales, Australia:
June 14, 2011 |
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Recollections
26.
Ian Thomson
New South Wales, Australia |
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Thank you to Ian Thomson who wrote: |
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Corstorphine Road
"I have just come
across one of your old pics of road repairs in
Corstorphine Road, near the zoo.
©
It
brought back to me memories from the 1940s" |
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Pinkhill
"The junction from
Corstorphine Road let to Pinkhill Station.
The road turned sharp-right,
once over the bridge to run
parallel with the railway leading to Carrick Knowe. Down a bit on
the left was Pinkhill Park, home of Murrayfield Amateur FC. who played in
the East of Scotland League during the war years." |
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Football
"My pals and I would find our way on a
Sunday morning for a kick-around
with our battered leather ball, which was shaped like an egg with seams
coming apart.
Of
course, this was subject to dodging
Sunday School at Carrick
Knowe church, where the Reverend Chalmers
was in league with my mother to keep an eye on us.
The football ground had nets up
- a novelty in these days.
The
groundsman usually arrived, late morning,
with a clanging of the gates, signaling that it was
time for us to get cracking. We were not
popular as we made a mess of his goalmouth." |
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Golf Course
"Our
escape was over the stank,
by rope from a tree. The dog had to fend
for itself. It stunk like a polecat.
This took us into Carrick Knowe Golf Course.
In those
days, the east side of the
course was used by the home guard. The
west side, at Carrick Knowe, became our playground.
Again
there was a nasty green-keeper who gave chase.
A whack over the ears was the reward, but I was
never caught." |
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Today
"I often wonder what happened to Murrayfield
Amateur FC and if the
enclosed ground is still there." |
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Ian Thomson, New
South Wales, Australia: September 16, 2011 |
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