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Schools in
Warrender Park Crescent
Boroughmuir School THEN
James
Gillespie's High School for Girls
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A.
Schools |
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B.
Requests |
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C.
Recollections |
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D.
Questions and
Answers |
Boroughmuir School
THEN James Gillespie's School
AT Warrender Park Crescent

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Copyright: For permission to
reproduce, please contact
peter.stubbs@edinphoto.org.uk
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Gillespie Crescent |
Warrender Park Cres |
Viewforth |
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1803 |
Gillespie school and hospital
were established here from
a legacy left by James Gillespie, an Edinburgh snuff and tobacco
manufacturer.
The school was
based in Gillespie Crescent until 1914. |
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1905 |
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Renaissance frontage in pale orange sandstone facing onto Bruntsfield
Links.
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Built 1902.
Officially Opened 1905 as Boroughmuir School
Later known as
Borough-muir School Annexe.
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1914 |
The
military moved
into there during the 1st World War. |
Gillespie school
moved here when the building
building was vacated by Boroughmuir. |
Renaissance with Byzantine details, a
Doric porch and tall flanking towers.
Built 1911.
Boroughmuir School.
moved here, in 1914 |
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1922 |
The building was sold to the Royal Blind
Asylum. |
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Colour Key above:
Boroughmuir
James Gillespie
Others |
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Acknowledgements
Architectural Details: The Buildings of Scotland:
Edinburgh, John Gifford et al. 1984
School Occupants:
James Gillespie School
web site
The photo below appeared in the WR&S Ltd
album, 'Edinburgh and Vicinity'
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Request
1.
Classmates from 1950s
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1950s
Elma Cairns, nee Reid now living in Flint, Texas, USA wrote in the
EdinPhoto guestbook |
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"I attended Boroughmuir from 1954 - 1958 and would love to hear
from any classmates, especially June Oddie who came from the
Dumbiedykes area.
I will be in Auld Reekie from July 27 until August 1, 2007 and may
meet up with old friends"
Elma Cairns, nee Reid, Flint, Texas, USA: July 24, 2007
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If you'd like to contact Elma,
please e-mail me and I'll pass on your message to her.
Thank you.
- Peter stubbs. |
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Request
2.
Classmates from 1950s
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Thank you to John E Kirkwood for sending me these two class photos,
taken at Boroughmuir School:
1949-50 - Class 1C1
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1951-52 - Class 3B4
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John would be keen to hear from others who remember him from
school.
John E Kirkwood,
Livingston, West Lothian, Scotland: March 9, 2008 |
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Update 1 -
March 2011 |
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John emailed me again in March 2011 to tell me:
Meeting Again
"I got
a reply from classmate, Jim
Mercer ,who had moved to Hamilton, Ontario.
In fact, he was back in 'Auld Reekie'
last year and we, along with our wives, met up
and had a good blether.
Now I have had a reply from
Lilian Young. The three
of us are now collaborating, putting names to
faces etc. Lilian moved to New
Jersey, USA in 1956 with her family.
Unfortunately
I've had no word back from Rose as yet, but still early days."
Anybody Else?
"Jim
Mercer and his wife are due back
in Edinburgh for a month from mid-April
2011. Should anyone else from our era recognise
us we would be pleased to meet up with them too."
John E Kirkwood, Livingston, West Lothian, Scotland: March 29,
2011
Class
1C1, 2B4, 3B4 circa 1949-52 |
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Update 2 - May 2011 |
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Thank you to John for emailing me again and for
posting a message in the EdinPhoto
guestbook on May 11, 2011. John wrote:
Classmates
"I've just met
up again with Jim Mercer during his recent visit
to Edinburgh. This time we also had the pleasure of the company of:
- Valerie (Trollope) Cant
from Livingston and
- Kathleen (Mathieson) Crawford from Currie.
We enjoyed a 3+ hour lunch going over old
times at 'Burry' and
the the intervening 59 years since we all last met.
Thanks must also go to Lilian (Raeburn) Young
from New Jersey who put me in touch with the 'girls',
also through the EdinPhoto web site.
It's a pity
that Lilian could not join usfor
our thoroughly enjoyable meeting.
Here's
hoping we might meet up with other members of our class
in the future.
John E Kirkwood, Livingston, West Lothian, Scotland:
May 11, 2011 |
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Reply to John
"If you
remember John or any of the others mentioned above, and would like to send
a message to them,
please email me, then I'll pass on your message to them.
Thank you."
Peter Stubbs, Edinburgh: May 12, 2011 |
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Request
3.
Classmates from 1960s
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Thank you to
Nancy Abbott for posting messages in the EdinPhoto
guest book.
Nancy wrote: |
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Boroughmuir School
and Heriot Place
"I'd like
to hear from anyone who attended Boroughmuir School in the 1960s or lived
at Heriot Place then. I lived there until 1969, when I left to join
the army and become a nurse."
Nancy Abbott (nee
Gilchrist), South Africa:
Messages posted in EdinPhoto guest book,
January 23, 2011
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C.
Recollections |
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Recollections
1. |
Ann Landels
Aberdeenshire, Scotland |
- 1960s |
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Recollections
2. |
Graeme Kerr
Aberdeenshire, Scotland |
- High School
Annexe |
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Recollections
3. |
James L Wallis |
- Today |
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Recollections
1.
Ann Landels
Aberdeenshire, Scotland |
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1960s
Thank you to Ann Landels, Aberdeenshire, for the comments below.
Ann attended the school in the photo above in 1965/66, when it was
James Gillespie's High School for Girls
"Although this building was built for Boroughmuir it was only
Boroughmuir School for a very short time.
When Boroughmuir moved to current location, James Gillespie's
moved in and it eventually became James Gillespie's High School
for Girls until the current building was opened in the Bruntsfield
House grounds in 1966. Muriel Spark would also have gone to
school in that building.
The building later became part of the
Dean nursing college.
It is now Edinburgh University
student accommodation."
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Recollections
2.
Graeme Kerr
Selkirk, Borders, Scotland |
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Thank you to Graeme Kerr, now living in Selkirk,
Scottish Borders, for the comments below.
Graeme attended the school when it was Boroughmuir School Annexe in the
'70s and '80s. |
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High
School Annexe
"After James Gillespies moved out, this building became Boroughmuir High
School Annexe (Affectionately known as the junior school), attended by
myself, two brothers and sister in the 70's and 80's.
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The gable end in your picture, from the ground up, shows one of the
science classes, the room above I think was a storage room and the top was
history.
Shooting off to the right, unseen in the photo, was the maths corridor
with the gym at the top. The attic with the bell tower contained one of
the art classes and was a trek and a half up a narrow staircase to get to.
Once again, fond memories.
I believe the Boroughmuir moved all its classes to the Viewforth building
in the late 80's after filling in the central area above the gym halls to
create more space. You'll know what I mean if you've been in the Viewforth
building. (It is also the school's centenary this year.)" |
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Recollections
3.
James L Wallis |
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Thank you to James L Walls who commented: |
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Today
"This
building is now part of Napier University. It was vacated by the
Education Department, when the new building was completed at Spottiswoode
Street."
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D.
Questions and Answers |
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Question
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Doris Shore
Montreal, Quebec, Canada |
- Boroughmuir
School Song |
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Question
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REPLY 1 |
George T Smith
Nanaimo, Vancouver Island, British Columbia,
Canada |
- Boroughmuir
School Song |
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Question
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REPLY 2 |
Stephen McMahon
Munich, Germany |
- Boroughmuir
School Song |
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Question
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REPLY 3 |
George T Smith
Nanaimo, Vancouver Island, British Columbia,
Canada |
- Boroughmuir
School Song |
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Question
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REPLY 4 |
Neil Anderson |
- Boroughmuir
School Song |
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Question
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REPLY 5 |
Betty Smith (nee
White)
Holywell, near Whitley Bay,
Northumberland, England |
- Boroughmuir
School Song |
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Question
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REPLY 6 |
Betty Smith (nee
White)
Holywell, near Whitley Bay,
Northumberland, England |
- Boroughmuir
School Song |
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Question
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REPLY 7 |
Alastair Adams |
- Boroughmuir
School Song |
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Question
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REPLY 8 |
Don Sandilands
Toronto, Ontario,
Canada |
- Boroughmuir
School Song |
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Question
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REPLY 9 |
Jim
Cairns
Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland |
- Boroughmuir
School Song |
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Question
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Evan
Reid
Ayrshire, Scotland |
- Athletics 1955
- The Boroughmuir Team |
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Question
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REPLY 2 |
Bob
Fairley
Palma, Majorca |
- Classmates +
Rugby Colleagues |
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Question
3. |
Margaret Kortas
British Columbia, Canada |
- Friends
- Tommy Gifford |
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Question
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Boroughmuir School Song
Doris Shore, formerly of Edinburgh and now living in Canada, asked the
following question. If you can help to answer it,
please e-mail me, and I'll tell Doris. Thank you:
- Peter Stubbs April 16, 2007
Doris wrote:
"I am trying to find the lyrics to the Boroughmuir School song."
Doris Shore, Montreal, Quebec, Canada:
April 17, 2007
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Reply to Doris?
If you'd like to send a reply
to Doris,
please email me, then I'll pass your message on to her.
Thank you. -
Peter Stubbs |
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Reply
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to Question
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George T Smith
Nanaimo, Vancouver Island, British Columbia,
Canada |
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Thank you to George T Smith, British Columbia, Canada for the
suggestion below.
George wrote:
"While
I remember the first line " We are vassals of the Muir" the
rest escapes me . I think though if your correspondent contacts
the
Boroughmuir school web site she may get the full lyric or,
more likely, an up dated version in hip-hop mode
George T Smith, Nanaimo, Vancouver Island,
British Columbia, Canada: April 16, 2007 |
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Reply
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to Question
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Stephen McMahon
Munich, Germany |
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Thank you to Stephen McMahon, Munich, Germany, for the suggestion
below.
Stephen wrote:
"All I can really recommend is that someone
e-mails the school office.
They can probably help through their network of former teachers.
Otherwise: The Press department (Culture and Leisure) at the City Council
helped me trace a 1970s school concert programme. They have links to music
teachers in the city who may know someone who knows someone….."
Stephen McMahon, Munich, Germany: April 17,
2007 |
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Update |
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I've now e-mailed the Boroughmuir School
Office to see if they can help.
Neil Anderson has replied. See 'Answer'
below.
- Peter
Stubbs: April 18, 2007 |
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Reply
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to Question
1.
George T Smith
Nanaimo, Vancouver Island, British Columbia,
Canada |
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Thank you to George T Smith, British Columbia, Canada for the further
message
George wrote:
"Ken
Smith of Calgary says he remembers the first line as I did and it
continues - he thinks - with something about the Borestane (which
is part of the school badge).
He also thinks it might have been composed by a Mr Moyes, a music
teacher who went on to higher things in the music world.
While the name is familiar my own recollection is of a Mr
Whitfield who talked of "tone colours", a concept that went over
my uncomprehending and tone deaf head.
I am sure that your enquiries will reveal the song's lyrics and
perhaps the rather turgid music to which they were sung by my
class of uninspired teenagers. (Yes, we had them in those days
too.)
George T Smith, Nanaimo, Vancouver Island,
British Columbia, Canada: April 19, 2007 |
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Reply
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to Question
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Neil Anderson |
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Answer
Thank you to Neil Anderson, Boroughmuir School for replying, giving me
the lyrics to the school song.
"We are
Vassals
of the 'Muir, Vassals of the 'Muir.
In silent vigil at her shrine,
We pledge fealty to the 'Muir.
"Justus! Serve the cause of right:"
"Tenax! keep the scutcheon bright."
And we proudly bear the banner,
The liege Vassals of the 'Muir.
The 'Muir, The 'Muir, Vassals of the 'Muir,
Rally to the Borestone, O Ye Vassals of the 'Muir.
To the gate that opens wide,
To the lamp that burns inside.
To the gate that opens wide,
To the lamp that burns inside.
To the Borestone, To the Borestone,
All Ye Vassals of the 'Muir."
Neil Anderson, Boroughmuir School, Edinburgh:
April 19, 2007 |
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Update 1
Thank you to Irene Beaver, now living in Kirkliston,
Edinburgh, who sent me the same words as above.
Irene added:
"To the best of my knowledge, these words are
correct, although how I managed to remember them when I forgot half of
what I was taught beats me. :)
There's another version which starts 'We are
vessels of manure...' - much more popular with the pupils."
Irene Beaver, Kirkliston,
Edinburgh, September 29, 2007
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Update
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Thank you also to Rosemary Macleod for sending me
very similar lyrics.
Rosemary added:
"I think
the lyrics were composed by history teacher, Mr
Harris, ("Felix"). He was a lovely little
man, but not quite of the world as it was then. The
words made us laugh helplessly!"
Rosemary Macleod:
September 21, 2009
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Reply
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to Question
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Betty Smith (nee
White)
Holywell, near Whitley Bay,
Northumberland, England |
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Thank you to Maureen Ritson (nee Pyper), now living
in Holywell, Northumberland,
who attended Boroughmuir from 1958 to 1964 for sending me the
message below.
Maureen
wrote:
'Pupil Version'
"I left Boroughmuir in 1964 and can still remember the tune of the
school song. I managed to remember most of the words as well.
There was also a 'pupil version' which
my mother said began: 'We are barrels of
manure'!
She
was at the school way back in the 1920's, I think.
Maureen Ritson (nee Pyper), Holywell,
nr. Whitley Bay, Northumberland, England:
April 25, 2007 |
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Reply
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to Question
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Betty Smith (nee
White) |
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Thank you to Betty Smith (nee White), now living in
Italy, who attended Craiglockhart Primary School, then Boroughmuir, for
leaving a message in the EdinPhoto guest book.
Betty wrote:
School Song
"On the subject of the Boroughmuir
School song. I still have the original music should anyone want a
copy."
Betty Smith (nee White), Message
left in Edinphoto Guest Book,: December 3, 2008 |
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Reply
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to Question
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Alastair Adams |
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Thank you to Alastair Adams who wrote:
School Song
"I remember the exact moment when
the old School Song fell into disuse. It was in October 1962, when
one "John Vassal" was convicted in a rather unsavoury spy/sex
scandal.
The School Song began "We are Vassals of
the 'Muir'."
Alastair Adams: June 7, 2009 |
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Reply
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to Question
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Don Sandilands
Toronto, Ontario,
Canada |
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Thank you to Don Sandilands who wrote:
School Song
"After
reading the comments above,
I've been way down memory lane.
I went to Boroughmuir form 1940 to 1944 (leaving age 14). I am 82
years old now but still remember most of the words of the
Boroughmuir school song, composed by the music teacher and I think
his name was" Moir" or "Moyes". My class did not learn much about
music for, when rationing began, my music period consisted of
completing ration books for the public from forms.
The words of the song went something like this:
'We
are Vassals of the Muir
(or moor),
Vassals of the Muir
In silent vigil at the shrine,
We
pledge fealty to the Muir.
Justus! Serve the cause of right!
Tenax! Keep the scutcheon bright,
As we proudly bear the banner
The
true Vassals of the
Muir'."
These words agree almost exactly with the first few lines of the
verse in 5 above.
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Don added
Up at 5am
"That's about all I remember
about the school, except for
getting the strap almost every morning for being late,
as I had to get up at 5.00am to deliver rolls and milk for the
Dumfries Dairy and newspapers along the same route for a newsagent
on Gorgie Road.
Needless to say, my school years from age eleven at Boroughmuir do
not evoke happy memories - not that it was
the fault of the school!
Being up at 5.00am had its advantages,
however:
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I was able to breakfast on rolls and milk, courtesy of
Dumfries Dairy.
- I was
one of the first kids on the street to gather
shrapnel after an air raid!
It made great souvenirs."
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Don Sandilands, Toronto, Ontario,
Canada: July 17,
2010 |
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Reply
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to Question
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Jim Cairns
Dunfermline, Fife,
Scotland |
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Thank you to Jim Cairns for letting me see the sheet
music for 'Vassals of the 'Muir', published by Rae MacIntosh & Co
Ltd, 39 George Street, Edinburgh.
The song is described as:
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Broughton Secondary School
Rallying Song
Poem by: U A Harris
Music by: Frank Moyes |
The sheet music has a green cover with an
illustration of three soldiers (or similar) background is another on
horseback and a Saltire, with a backdrop of Salisbury Crags in Holyrood
Park.
Unfortunately, I'll not be able to add
this music or illustration to the EdinPhoto web site for copyright
reasons. |
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Acknowledgement: Jim Cairns,
Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland: November 29, 2010 |
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Question
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Evan Reid,
now living in Ayrshire, Scotland wrote:
Athletics - 1955
"I recently came across a short reference to the Edinburgh Schools
Athletic Team to meet the Glasgow Schools at the annual inter-city
athletic contest which was held at Scotstoun, Glasgow in June
1955.
I know it is a long shot but I wondered if anyone had a full copy
of the Edinburgh Team List covering the three age groups which
were:
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Group
A (17-19)
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Group B (15-17)
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Group C (13-15).
I took part in that contest and was in Group B and therefore have
a particular interest in that list.
The Boroughmuir Team
I was at Boroughmuir at that time and some of the other
Boroughmuir lads who were in the team that come to my mind
are:
- Arthur Leitch
- Tom Gifford
- John Hughes
- Brian Blisset
- J. Trench.
I also remember:
- Roger Macdonald (Heriots)
- Eddie Keating (Heriots)
- Lorimer (Watsons)."
Evan Reid, Ayrshire, Scotland:
December 19, 2009 |
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Reply to Evan?
If you'd like to send a reply
to Evan,
please email me, then I'll pass your message on to
him.
Thank you. -
Peter Stubbs |
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Reply
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to Question
2.
Bob Fairley
Palma, Majorca |
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Thank you to Alastair Adams who wrote:
Class Mates and Rugby
Colleagues
"I've just discovered Evan Reid’s interest in:
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Arthur Leitch
- Tom Gifford
- John Hughes
- Brian Blisset
They were all classmates or rugby colleagues and friends.
I still have
contacts with:
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Larry Hutchison (antiquarian)
-
John Gray
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Harry Pincott
(Scotsman, sports)
After 43 years in Germany,
I am now retired in Palma de Mallorca.
Bob Fairley, Palma de Mallorca:
July 2, 2010 |
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Question
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Former Boroughmuir pupils have been asking more
questions than visitors to the web site who attended other schools.
Is this a result of the way they were taught at Boroughmuir?
Here is another question. It comes from Margaret Kortas who now
lives in Canada.
Margaret wrote: |
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Friends
"I attended the Muir from 1952 until 1958 and was in the same
class as John Gray, Harold Pincott, Tom Gifford and John Hughes at
various times.
I read some time ago on a Muir website that John Hughes was
running a business in Sweden and that Tommy Gifford had died very
young. They were both gifted linguists and were the first pupils
in the school to learn Russian."
Tommy Gifford
"Tommy lived downstairs from my friend. and am curious
about what career he followed and when and how he died. He
was a very low key but nice fellow."
Margaret Kortas, British
Columbia, Canada: October 17, 2010 |
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Reply to Evan?
If you'd like to send a reply
to Margaret,
please email me, then I'll pass your message on to
her.
Thank you. -
Peter Stubbs |
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