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A selection of my photographs, many from Edinburgh throughout the year.   Also photos from Scotland, London, Iceland, Italy, Hong Kong and elsewhere     Many old maps of Edinburgh (Old Town, New Town, while City), Leith and Newhaven.  Includes several old transport maps and a comparison of old maps with recent aerial photos.   Old engravings, mailly of Edinburgh scenes.  Some from the 1820s, some from the 1890s,  some others - includes many hand-coloured examples from the 1820s.   News from Edinburgh today  -  Events, Collections, Buildings and Gardens, Transport   This site includes     1. Post card portraits taken in studios in Edinburgh:    2. Post card views either takeen/published by Ediburgh photographers or views of Edinburgh, or both.y Edinburgh    Views of Edinburgh, grouped into three sections:     1. Street views:    2. Buildings:    3. Around Edinburgh   Views of transport around Edinburgh  -  Horse drawn trams and buses, cable cars, electric trams, buses and a few railway photos.  Also several maps of Edinburgh's bus and tram routes.   Links to pages with Photos of Groups   Frequently Asked Questions

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Trams and Buses

Destination Boards

and

Seafield Paint Shop

1956

Destination Board from the last 23 tram  -  1956

  Allan Dodds, Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England

 

Destination Board

Thank you to Allan Dodds who wrote:

The Last 23 Tram

"Here is a picture of the destination board from the last 23 tram that ran in Edinburgh. The Conductor threw it to me as it passed Warriston Drive"

Allan Dodds, Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England:  January 6, 2012

 

Recollections and Photos

   Destination Board from the last 23 tram  -  1956

When I added this photo above to the web site last week, I did not expect it to become the start of discussions and photos of LRT paintshop at Seafield - but see below.

Peter Stubbs, Edinburgh:  January 12, 201

1.

John Dickson
Royston, Edinburgh

Signwriting

Number Plates

Lothian Regional Transport   -  John Dickson signwriting at Seafield Works

2.

Steven Oliver
Duns, Borders, Scotland

Signwriting

3.

Steven Oliver
Duns, Borders, Scotland

Slipboards

Number Plates

4.

John Dickson
Royston, Edinburgh

Signwriting

   John Dickson painting the LRT prototype logo at Seafield Paintshop

5.

Peter Stubbs
Edinburgh

LRT Paintshop at Seafield

Lothian Region Transport Paint Shop at Seafield, 1994 

 

 

6.

Steven Oliver
Duns, Borders, Scotland

Paintshop - Move to Seafield

Name Change to LRT

Painting of 615

7.

John Dickson
Royston, Edinburgh

Seafield Paint Shop - Leyland PD2

Two buses, one a Leyland Titan PD2 being painted at Seafield Paintshop

Destination Boards

Shrubhill Paintshop Roof

8.

Steven Oliver
Duns, Borders, Scotland

Seafield Paint Shop - Leyland PD2

Deregulation - 1986

9.

John Dickson
Royston, Edinburgh

Painting the Gold Line

Gold Line being applied to one of the Lothian Buses at the Paintshop at Seafield.

Seafield Paintshop Workers

Lothian Region Council Transport Department

Recollections

1.

John Dickson

Royston, Edinburgh

Thank you to John Dickson for responding to the photo above and sending me a photo of himself at work, when he worked for Lothian Regional Transport, now Lothian Buses, at their Seafield works.

John wrote:

Signwriting

"I used to signwrite these destination boards:

Destination Board from the last 23 tram  -  1956

-  TO THE ZOO

-  TO THE AIRPORT

-  etc.

Number Plates

Here is a shot of me signwriting a glass number plate at Seafield.  You'll notice that the numbers are reversed and see-through with a coat of white.  They light up at night."

Lothian Regional Transport   -  John Dickson signwriting at Seafield Works

John Dickson, Royston, Edinburgh: January 7, 2012

Sepia Photo

I converted the photo above to sepia in an attempt to give it more of a period feel.  Here is the result.  Please click on this thumbnail image or the one above to enlarge the photo.

Lothian Regional Transport   -  John Dickson signwriting at Seafield Works

Peter Stubbs, Edinburgh: January 7, 2012

Recollections

2.

Steven Oliver

Duns, Borders, Scotland

Steven Oliver wrote:

Signwriting

"The photos of painting the number plates (above) would have been taken at Shrubhill Works.

LRT moved their engineering facility to Seafield, to a building which had previously been used to store withdrawn buses prior to disposal, when Shrubhill Works closed in 1999." **

Steven  Oliver, Duns, Borders, Scotland:  January 8, 2012

***  No:  See replies 4 and 6 below.

 

Recollections

3.

Steven Oliver

Duns, Borders, Scotland

Thank you to Steven Oliver who wrote again.

Stephen wrote:

Slipboards

Destination Board from the last 23 tram  -  1956

"Incidentally, the correct name for these destination boards or tram boards carried by trams is 'slipboards.'  The slipboards are of course still very much in use today."

Number Plates

Lothian Regional Transport   -  John Dickson signwriting at Seafield Works

"Although white on black number plates were outlawed on new cars during the seventies, an exception was made for buses.

London Transport continued to specify this style of number plate on both the front and rear of new buses up until 1985 while Lothian's double decker deliveries up until 1982 had white-on-black rear number plates.  The last new Edinburgh buses buses to arrive with this feature were Olympians 666 and 667, delivered in March 1982."

Steven  Oliver, Duns, Borders, Scotland:  January 8, 2012

 

Recollections

4.

John Dickson

Royston, Edinburgh

Thank you to John Dickson for replying to Steven Oliver's comments in 2 above.

John wrote:

Signwriting

"I've just read Steven Oliver comments (2 above).  In fact, the LRT paintshop moved from Shrubhill to Seafield in 1982 when the roof at Shrubhill Paintshop, Museum, and Spray Booth  started to give-way.

The Driving School moved into the Front Office at Seafield.  Marine mechanics used it as an overspill, and they did store redundant buses there till they were sold

I cant remember the year but I did a prototype logo, when the company changed to Lothian Region Transport,  at Seafield."

LRT Logo

    John Dickson painting the LRT prototype logo at Seafield Paintshop

John Dickson, Royston, Edinburgh: January 7, 2012

Recollections

5.

Peter Stubbs

Edinburgh

LRT

Paint Shop at Seafield

Here are three photos that I took when I visited Lothian Region Transport's Paint Shop at Seafield in 1994.

Lothian Region Transport Paint Shop at Seafield, 1994         

 

Peter Stubbs, Edinburgh: January 9, 2012

 

Recollections

6.

Steven Oliver

Duns, Borders, Scotland

Thank you to Steven Oliver who replied

Paint Shop

Move to Seafield

"Brian Melrose, another member of the Edinburgh Transport Group,  has been in touch with me to say that the paintshop did indeed move to Seafield in the early-1980s, for the reasons that John described. 

The loss of the spray booth at Shrubhill meant that the silver 'Bell's Scotch Whisky' buses and the bus repainted gold for the 'Gold of the Pharaohs' exhibition, went through to Strathclyde PTE's workshops in Glasgow to be spray-painted into their advert liveries."

Name change to LRT

"I can help John with the year Lothian Region Transport came into being.  It was 1986, when what was Lothian Regional Council Department of Public Transport became Lothian Region Transport plc in preparation for bus deregulation that October.

John Dickson painting the LRT prototype logo at Seafield Paintshop

This photo shows John applying the white 'LRT Lothian' fleet name which would be used for the next 13 years.  There had been several experiments with fleet names during 1986, following the decision to stop using the Council crest on buses at the end of the previous year."

Painting of 615

"I particularly like your picture of bus 615 being repainted, with the fleet names and the gold line below its lower-deck windows yet to be applied.

 

I think the name of the shade of madder paint which was used on the buses was called "rose madder".  And not just on the buses either - I recall being on an enthusiasts tour of Shrubhill in 1996 and noticing that even the toilet cubicle doors were painted madder!"

Steven  Oliver, Duns, Borders, Scotland:  January 9, 2012

Recollections

7.

John Dickson

Royston, Edinburgh

Thank you to John Dickson for replying and for sending another photo taken in the paint shop at Seafield.

John wrote:

Seafield Paint Shop

Leyland PD2

"Here is a photo of two more buses in the Seafield paintshop.

Two buses, one a Leyland Titan PD2 being painted at Seafield Paintshop

 The Leyland Titan PD2 was being painted for a bus enthusiast in the late 1980s.  Maybe Steven will know the owner."

Destination Boards

"Steven Oliver referred to 'destination boards' a  ''slip boards' in  2 above.  We called them ''route boards', but, what's in a name?"

Shrubhill Paintshop Roof

"The old paintshop roof at Shrubhill (the cause of our move to Seafield) was an 'umbrella roof''.   It was designed to give more space inside without the use of pillars, but it only lasted for twenty-odd years."

John Dickson, Royston, Edinburgh: January 9, 2012

 

Recollections

8.

Steven Oliver

Duns, Borders, Scotland

Thank you to Steven Oliver for commenting on the picture in 7 above.

Steven wrote:

Seafield Paint Shop

Leyland PD2

    Two buses, one a Leyland Titan PD2 being painted at Seafield Paintshop

"The old bus being painted up in John's photo is OFS798 which had served as a training vehicle up until 1982. 

It was then sold for preservation, to a Mr David Hunt, before being bought by its present owners Douglas and Ross Scoular in the early 1990s, and has recently undergone a very thorough restoration.  Douglas and Ross also own the famous Leyland Leopard three-door bus, no.101."

Deregulation

1986

    John Dickson painting the LRT prototype logo at Seafield Paintshop

"The picture of the LRT Lothian fleetname being applied to a bus has just jogged another memory.  In the weeks leading up to deregulation, two Leyland Olympian buses, 757 and 784, received LRT Lothian fleetnames along with Atlantean publicity bus 806.

They were then used as information buses to advertise the service changes which would be taking place as a result of deregulation, with 757 and 784 used to promote the extension of Lothian's services beyond the city boundary into the Balerno, Dalkeith, Musselburgh and Penicuik areas.

When you can remember the days prior to deregulation and when Lothian's services were confined to the city, you know that you're getting old - and I'm still only in my late-thirties!"

Steven  Oliver, Duns, Borders, Scotland:  January 10, 2012

Recollections

9.

John Dickson

Royston, Edinburgh

John Dickson wrote:

Painting the Gold Line

"Brian Melrose has spoken about the gold line under the windows of the buses.  It was applied with a long thin brush called a lining tool. 

Here is a photo of Graham Carberry painting the line.

Gold Line being applied to one of the Lothian Buses at the Paintshop at Seafield.

The madder paint was supplied by two firms, Masons and Tekaloid.

Seafield Paintshop Workers

    Lothian Region Council Transport Department

"Here is a photo of workers at Seafield Paintshop.   They are:

-  ON THE LEFT:

Hugh King

-  Jimmy Huth

-  [I don't know.  He just dropped in.]

-  Sammy Tipton

-  John Kerrigan

-  ON THE RIGHT:

 -  David Archibald

-  Andy Page

-  [I cant remember]

-  John Wintrop

-  Graham Carbeery

John Dickson, Royston, Edinburgh: January 10+11, 2012

 

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EdinPhoto - Home Page  Please send me an e-mail ...  with your questions, comments, suggestions or news.   At any time, you can search for a word  -  perhaps a photographer's name or a photographic topic.  The search will produce a list of pages on the EdinPhoto web site where this word appears.     At any time, you can search for a word  -  perhaps a photographer's name or a photographic topic.  The search will produce a list of pages on the EdinPhoto web site where this word appears.  

Photographs and Other Images  -  These include portraits of photographers  -  photographic outings -  Princes Street views  -  Newhaven Fishwives  -  etc.  Early Photography in Edinburgh  -  Talbot, Brewster, Hill & Adamson, Early Professional Photographers in Princes Street, etc.  Professional Photographers in Edinburgh  -  1840 to 1940  -  Their names, dates of business and studio addresses.  The Photographic Society of Scotland  -  1856 to 1873  -  Lectures, Exhibitions, Outings, etc.  The History of Edinburgh Photographic Society  -  1861 to date  -  Lectures, Exhibitions, Outings, Poems, etc.  EPS Publications - EPS Handwritten Records  -  Photographic Journals  -  Trade Directories  -  Books  -  etc.  Thanks to all who have encouraged and supported me in creating the EdinPhoto web site  -  including descendants of photographers  -  researchers  -  providers of photographs and other material  Background notes on the research thal led up to the creation of this site  -   together with lists of new material added to the site since its launch.  Brief comments on how this site might be used  -  Just browsing?  -  Seeking specific information?  Please add your questions, suggestions or other comments to the Guest Book.  Links to other web sites  -  Photographic Societies  -  Photographic History  -  Family History  -  etc.  Click here to find the link to the Edinburgh Photogrpahic Society web site.

 

A selection of my photographs, many from Edinburgh throughout the year.   Also photos from Scotland, London, Iceland, Italy, Hong Kong and elsewhere     Many old maps of Edinburgh (Old Town, New Town, while City), Leith and Newhaven.  Includes several old transport maps and a comparison of old maps with recent aerial photos.   Old engravings, mailly of Edinburgh scenes.  Some from the 1820s, some from the 1890s,  some others - includes many hand-coloured examples from the 1820s.   News from Edinburgh today  -  Events, Collections, Buildings and Gardens, Transport   This site includes     1. Post card portraits taken in studios in Edinburgh:    2. Post card views either takeen/published by Ediburgh photographers or views of Edinburgh, or both.y Edinburgh    Views of Edinburgh, grouped into three sections:     1. Street views:    2. Buildings:    3. Around Edinburgh   Views of transport around Edinburgh  -  Horse drawn trams and buses, cable cars, electric trams, buses and a few railway photos.  Also several maps of Edinburgh's bus and tram routes.   Links to pages with Photos of Groups   Frequently Asked Questions

  Summary of the updates added to this site each month since the site was launched   Links to Dumbiedykes pages  Link to Granton pages  Link to Leith pages   Link to Newhaven pages   Links to Portobello pages   Link to My Recent Talks