Where is it?

Salvation Army

playing, possibly somewhere in Edinburgh Old Town

1964

 

Salvation Army Band  -  Playing possibly somewhere in Edinburgh Old Town, 1964

Where is it?  Salvation Army playing probably somewhere in Edinburgh Old Town, 1964

 Terry (Full name + location not known)  10 January 2017

 

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   Where is it?  Salvation Army playing probably somewhere in Edinburgh Old Town, 1964

 

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1.

Terry Broughton

St Helens, Lancashire, England

Thank you to Terry for sending this photo to me.

Terry wrote:

Edinburgh Old Town?

"I was here in 1964 and am sure that this photo was  was in the old town area not far from the Salvation Army Building.  (I believe that was on the corner of Cowgate and The Pleasance  - Pete Stubbs.) 

I've tried St Mary's Street and Blackfriars Street, but don't think it's either of them. The only clues are the shop name and a number (83) in the doorway between the shops. If you or anyone can help I would be very grateful."

Terry:  January 10, 2017

Reply to Terry?

If you think you can identify this location and would like to send a reply to Terry, please email me to let me know, then I'll pass on his email address to you.

Thank you.

Peter Stubbs, Edinburgh:  January 10, 2017

 

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2.

Peter Stubbs

Edinburgh

Where is it?

"I thought there would be enough clues to me for this location to be identified fairly easily from the listings in the Edinburgh & Leith Post Office Directories.

However, I've checked my directories for 1950-51, 1961-62 and 1970-71 and not yet found the location.  Somewhere around the Cowgate seems likely to me.  The large doors on the right of the picture look familiar to me, but I cannot recall where I might have seen them.

It will be interesting to see how long it takes somebody to come up with an answer."

Peter Stubbs, Edinburgh:  10 January 2017

 

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3.

Terry Broughton

St Helens, Lancashire, England

Thank you to Terry for writing again.

Terry wrote:

Our Visit to Edinburgh

"I was in a band known as 'The Incas'  from St Helens in Lancashire.  We were playing at a folk club, which I also can't remember the name of.   I wonder if it is still going.

It was June 1964 and we were staying in one of the  students flats."

Location of the Photo

"I know that there was a Salvation Army place at the Pleasance and it would seem reasonable to assume that the band wouldn't have come too far carrying those musical instruments!

 Maybe someone will remember those tall possibly garage doors on the right of the picture too.

Terry:  January 11, 2017

 

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4.

Terry Cox

Fairmilehead, Edinburgh

Thank you to Terry Cox who wrote

The foot of St Mary's Street

"I think this photo is the foot of St. Mary's Street, opposite the Salvation Army Hostel.

Where is it?  Salvation Army playing probably somewhere in Edinburgh Old Town, 1964

Go to the SCRAN web site and search that site for reference,  000-000-127-322-R.  There you'll find a photo of 81-85 St Mary's Street in which the writing above the shops matches that in the photo above.

There's also a photo on the SCRAN web site which shows the 'garage' with the large doors, further up the street.

These buildings have all, long since, been demolished"

Terry Cox,  Fairmilehead, Edinburgh:  January 12, 2017

SCRAN web site

It's a while since I last viewed SCRAN photos.  When I looked for those that Terry mentions above, I was not able to view anything larger than thumbnail size.

Terry was able to read the writing on the buildings, so he must have found a way of viewing larger copies of the SCRAN photos.

UPDATE  -  SCRAN Photos

Terry wrote: 

"I'm not doing anything clever to see larger versions of the SCRAN pictures!  I always log on to SCRAN via the Edinburgh Public Library site, using my library number to log on. This allows you to see 2 larger versions of the thumbnails, which is very useful for looking at close detail."                 Terry Cox, 13 January 2017 

"EdinPhoto web site

However, I've now found a photo already on the EdinPhoto web site that confirms the conclusion reached by Terry Cox above.

Please see Recollections 5 below.

Peter Stubbs, Edinburgh:  January 12 2017

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5.

Peter Stubbs

Edinburgh

Agreed

Photo

1.

1964

Where is it?  Salvation Army playing probably somewhere in Edinburgh Old Town, 1964

 Terry (Full name + location not known)  10 January 2017

I agree with Terry.  There seems to be no doubt that this photo would have been  taken at the foot of St Mary's Street.

i.e. This photo would have been taken on the corner of Cowgate and St Mary's Street.  That's just across the road from the Salvation Army building on the corner of Cowgate and Pleasance.

EdinPhoto web site

I looked on the EdinPhoto web site for photos of buildings on the corner of Cowgate and St Mary's Street, and found these two that may be of interest.

Photo

2.

1951

  Forbes Wilson, Guilford, Surrey, England                                                                                               Photo taken:  December 1951

 

This is the same building as appears in Photo 1.  The large 'garage doors' can also be seen on the right-hand side of this picture.

Photo

3.

2009

St Mary Street, 2009  -  Travelodge

  Copyright: Peter Stubbs  -   please contact peter.stubbs@edinphoto.org.uk                                    Photograph taken:  October 26, 2009

This Travelodge, the hotel that now stands on the site.

Peter Stubbs, Edinburgh:  12 January 2017

 

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6.

Terry Broughton

St Helens, Lancashire, England

Thank you to Terry Broughton, who sent this photo to me on 10 January

Where is it?  Salvation Army playing probably somewhere in Edinburgh Old Town, 1964

 for replying.   Terry wrote:

Edinburgh Old Town?

"Wow! that was quick! The power of the Internet at its best! I somehow always thought it was going to St Mary's Street, the name seemed to be stuck somewhere in the dark recesses of my memory. I'd only discounted it because another photo shows the tobacconist on the opposite corner as number 85, which meant of course that my photo showing number 83 is on the wrong side of the road. But this photo disproves that theory!

 

We must have stayed above the tobacconist shop because I have a picture taken from inside where you can see the window from where I must have taken the photo and another window on the side, which is presumably the one directly above the tobacconist shop sign on the corner. From the angle of my photo I would say I was on the first floor.

Where is it?  Salvation Army playing probably somewhere in Edinburgh Old Town, 1964

Please pass on my thanks to those who took the time to find the answer for me. It now means that if I'm ever in Edinburgh I can say, "That's were I stayed in 1964 when I was 19!".

Terry Broughton:  January 13, 2017

To Terry Broughton

Thanks for your message above.  I've now passed on your thanks to Terry Cox.

Peter Stubbs, Edinburgh:  14 January 2017

 

 

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