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Questions about Photographs

 

Questions

1. and 2.

Mary Mattila, Saskatchewan Canada, has asked me questions about 2 of her photos by John Moffat.  If you have any comments in response to these questions, please e-mail me and I will pass on your comment.

Mary wrote:

Question 1

Dumfries

I have some old family photos that are printed on cards with J Moffat, 103 Princes Street Edinburgh on the front of the card. 

 On the back a label has been stuck on which says:

London & Counties Musical & Art Supply Co.

No 298 Branch Dumfries

Remarks:  Lady Full

Would the photographer have set up in Dumfries for the local trade?

Mary Mattila, Saskatchewan Canada,  23 July 2005

Comment

My initial reaction is that the label may have been attached by a company selling John Moffat's photos. 

I have seen labels attached to John Moffat's photos by Edinburgh bookshops and other outlets, particularly to photographs of University Professors, Ministers of the Church and other prominent personalities.

I am not aware of John Moffat having any studios in Scotland outside Edinburgh.

Peter Stubbs, Edinburgh,  24 July 2005

 

Question 2

Brooch

Photograph by John Moffat  -  in a brooch

©  Reproduced with acknowledgement to Mary Mattila, Saskatchewan Canada,

I have a brooch that has been passed down to me from my father's family.  I think the person in the photo is my great grandfather James Richardson of Torthorwald.

A similar likeness is found in another photo which we have which is printed on J Moffat, 125 Princes Street Edinburgh, which I am dating at 1880 - 82. 

Was this a usual practice to sell the photos in a brooch, or did my family purchase the brooch and insert the photo?

Mary Mattila, Saskatchewan Canada,  23 July 2005

Comment

My initial reaction is that the brooch was probably purchased separately and the photo inserted by the family. However, if any more similar brooches with Moffat photos turn up, I might revise my opinion.

Peter Stubbs, Edinburgh,  24 July 2005

 

 

Questions

3. and 4.

Sheena Ireland also asked two questions

Sheena wrote:

Question 3

Dating a Photo

Thank you to Sheena Ireland of Hove, Sussex, England for providing the following question.  Sheena writes:

"I have discovered a family photograph by Moffat, 5½” x 3¾”, mounted on a plain dull brown card, which says:

Moffat, 125 Princes Street, Edinburgh

Electric & Daylight Studios

 Having looked at the EdinPhoto information, can I date this to 1895 onwards?  i.e. I am assuming that before that date, when FPM improved his late father’s studio, there was no electric light."

Sheena Ireland of Hove, Sussex, England.  August 2005

 

Question 4

Hand Colouring

"Did Moffat colour photographs when others did not?

There is a small photo of my great-grandmother (d. 1897), which my sister has in a frame.  It is coloured & apparently signed J.Moffat but I have noticed that it is identical to her in a family group portrait by Pettigrew.  I would have thought the family would have had it made before Pettigrew ceased trading?

The photograph of my great-grandmother is one of a pair in a case that my sister has; I cannot see if the other photo in that case (my great-grandfather) is also by Moffat, though it is similarly coloured.  I have a similar case with photos of two of their sons, one of whom is my grandfather; these are by Moffat and coloured too.

None of these is the same as in the photo by Pettigrew; it may be that the Pettigrew one was the only photo of her they had."

Sheena Ireland of Hove, Sussex, England.  August 2005

 

 

 

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EdinPhoto - Home Page  Please send me an e-mail ...  with your questions, comments, suggestions or news.   At any time, you can search for a word  -  perhaps a photographer's name or a photographic topic.  The search will produce a list of pages on the EdinPhoto web site where this word appears.     At any time, you can search for a word  -  perhaps a photographer's name or a photographic topic.  The search will produce a list of pages on the EdinPhoto web site where this word appears.  

Photographs and Other Images  -  These include portraits of photographers  -  photographic outings -  Princes Street views  -  Newhaven Fishwives  -  etc.  Early Photography in Edinburgh  -  Talbot, Brewster, Hill & Adamson, Early Professional Photographers in Princes Street, etc.  Professional Photographers in Edinburgh  -  1840 to 1940  -  Their names, dates of business and studio addresses.  The Photographic Society of Scotland  -  1856 to 1873  -  Lectures, Exhibitions, Outings, etc.  The History of Edinburgh Photographic Society  -  1861 to date  -  Lectures, Exhibitions, Outings, Poems, etc.  EPS Publications - EPS Handwritten Records  -  Photographic Journals  -  Trade Directories  -  Books  -  etc.  Thanks to all who have encouraged and supported me in creating the EdinPhoto web site  -  including descendants of photographers  -  researchers  -  providers of photographs and other material  Background notes on the research thal led up to the creation of this site  -   together with lists of new material added to the site since its launch.  Brief comments on how this site might be used  -  Just browsing?  -  Seeking specific information?  Please add your questions, suggestions or other comments to the Guest Book.  Links to other web sites  -  Photographic Societies  -  Photographic History  -  Family History  -  etc.  Click here to find the link to the Edinburgh Photogrpahic Society web site.

 

A selection of my photographs, many from Edinburgh throughout the year.   Also photos from Scotland, London, Iceland, Italy, Hong Kong and elsewhere     Many old maps of Edinburgh (Old Town, New Town, while City), Leith and Newhaven.  Includes several old transport maps and a comparison of old maps with recent aerial photos.   Old engravings, mailly of Edinburgh scenes.  Some from the 1820s, some from the 1890s,  some others - includes many hand-coloured examples from the 1820s.   News from Edinburgh today  -  Events, Collections, Buildings and Gardens, Transport   This site includes     1. Post card portraits taken in studios in Edinburgh:    2. Post card views either takeen/published by Ediburgh photographers or views of Edinburgh, or both.y Edinburgh    Views of Edinburgh, grouped into three sections:     1. Street views:    2. Buildings:    3. Around Edinburgh   Views of transport around Edinburgh  -  Horse drawn trams and buses, cable cars, electric trams, buses and a few railway photos.  Also several maps of Edinburgh's bus and tram routes.   Links to pages with Photos of Groups   Frequently Asked Questions

  Summary of the updates added to this site each month since the site was launched   Links to Dumbiedykes pages  Link to Granton pages  Link to Leith pages   Link to Newhaven pages   Links to Portobello pages   Link to My Recent Talks