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John Knox House

and

Moubray House

and other buildings in the Royal Mile, Edinburgh

When might this photo have been taken?

John Knox House and Temperance Hotel  -  When was this photo taken

  Reproduced with acknowledgement to Tom Yanul, Oak Lawn, Illinois, USA

 

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   John Knox House and Temperance Hotel  -  When was this photo taken

 

John Knox House and Moubray House

Royal Mile, Edinburgh

Thanks to Tom Yanul for allowing me to reproduce this photograph of:

-  John Knox House (the house in the centre of this photo that juts out into the Royal Mile)

and

-  Moubray House (the house immediately to the left of John Knox House).

 

Question

Date of the Photo?

I believe this photo may date from the mid- to late-C19.  The movement captured in the figures suggests that this was a fairly long time-exposure.

The wording on the roof of Moubray House, and the wording on the frontage of the house ('Knox Temperance Hotel') may be helpful in dating the photo.

If you can suggest a date, please email me.

Thank you.   -  Peter Stubbs:  April 7, 2008.

 

Reply

1.

Alfred Grandl

Germany

Thank you to Dr Alfred Grandl, Germany who wrote:

After 1858

"The photo must have been shot after 1858 surely, since an old travel report of those days says, that in summer 1858 there was still a puppet at the corner of the Knox House featuring the preacher himself.

Some of the engravings of John Knox House on the EdinPhoto web site show this puppet."

Perhaps 1880s or later

"On the photo below, you can see a later relief figure, in rather poor condition. So  I think this photo would have been shot at least 20 or 30 years after 1858."

John Knox House and Temperance Hotel  -  When was this photo taken

Dr Alfred Grandl, Germany:  April 15, 2008

Reply

2.

Jay Ell

Thank you to Jay Ell for telling me about other buildings in the Royal Mile, near Jay Knox House.  They are the tenements at  Paisley Close that collapsed in 1861.

Jay is a descendant of the Bruce family, mentioned in the death column for this collapse.  Jay tells me that his great grandfather and his brother escaped the tragedy.

Jay wrote

Paisley Close

"Paisley Close, at 99-103 High Street, lies on the same side of the road as John Knox House, but is a little further up the Royal Mile.  The 250-year-old houses at Paisley Close collapsed on November 24, 1861.

Thirty-five of the occupants died, but as the debris was being cleared away a young lad was heard to shout from within the collapsed building: 'Heave awa' lads, I'm no' deid yet'.

The memorial inscription above Paisley Close, which was built on place of the collapsed houses, has a more anglicised, middle-class interpretation of what was said: 'Heave awa' chaps, I'm no dead yet'.

This tragedy (and the overcrowding which was prevalent at the time) resulted in a Medical Officer of Health being appointed in Edinburgh for the first time."

Jay Ell:  January 16 +23. 2011

 

Reply

3.

Siobhan Wildman

Overton, Hampshire, England

Thank you to Siobhan Wildman who wrote:

Louise Rayner

Paintings of John Knox House

"I came across your photo above, as I had been looking at three paintings of John Knox' House between around 1861 and 1877 (if I've understood it correctly) by Louise Rayner.

This Dudley Mall web site gives details of the dates of these three paintings.  It also states that house No.35 was demolished to make way for the church, which is in your picture.

The Dudley Mall web site also give details about the Temperance House.  I don't know if this website would help you in finding the date of your interesting photograph.  I hope it helps.

Siobhan Wildman, Overton, Hampshire, England:  22 January, 2016

Thank You

Thank you, Siobhan, for sending me the link to the Dudley Mall web site.  that site has some interesting comments about some of the buildings in Edinburgh Old Town, not just John Knox House.

Peter Stubbs, Edinburgh:  22 January 2016

 

 

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